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Observations on GOT final season and ending (having watched it this weekend).

Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:36 am
1. I’m ok with Arya killing the Night King
2. Jaime had to die with Cersei.
3. The Unsullied should have killed Jon.
4. The Hound and The Mountain had to die fighting each other.
5. Jon had to kill Dany.
6. Jon was never going to willingly sit in the Iron Throne.
7. No opinion one way or the other on Bran The Broken as King. About as exciting as Edmure Tully.
8. Drogon took Dany to Asshai where she was brought back to life by a Red Priestess.


Would love to see a short “Odd Couple-like” series featuring the “Master of Grammar”(Ser Davos) and the “Lord of Lofty Titles”(Ser Bronn).
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29328 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:40 am to
Funny you started this thread, I was browsing the HBO schedule yesterday and saw it was on and recorded the final season

Debating on watching it again or not
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7511 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:41 am to
Are you trying to start a rumble?


Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37590 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:47 am to
Why would you put yourself through that shite?

As someone who would rewatch the entire season (sometimes twice) before the new season would come out, I haven’t watched a second of it since the finale

It’s truly incredible how a cultural phenomenon can go from 100 to 0 just like that
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112335 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:50 am to
God there’s so much wrong in this
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20722 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:57 am to
Only watched the first episode but I’ve been debating watching the whole series but people say the last season ruins the show
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22081 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:57 am to
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Are you trying to start a rumble?


It’s Sunday morning, what else is there to do?

Wanna see a rumble? Wait til next Sunday when I resurrect the “Hodor” thread for “House of the Dragon”
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22081 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:03 am to
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Only watched the first episode but I’ve been debating watching the whole series but people say the last season ruins the show


I don’t include myself in the “cliff jumpers” category, but the last two seasons did not live up to the previous six.

You will be missing out on some great television if you don’t watch it. I think the quality of the first six seasons more than makes up for the dropping off in the last two seasons.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:23 am to
The worst season in tv history?
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21167 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:36 am to
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Wanna see a rumble? Wait til next Sunday when I resurrect the “Hodor” thread for “House of the Dragon”



3 posts from people discussing the actual show, 483 posts from 2 autistics discussing how they would have adapted the books if they were in charge of the show.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27251 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:52 am to
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It’s truly incredible how a cultural phenomenon can go from 100 to 0 just like that


Would make a fascinating case-study in how to ruin a TV series.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108567 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:53 am to
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1. I’m ok with Arya killing the Night King


Ummmm, absolutely not. There are only four candidates that should have killed the Night King and in specific order:

1) Jon
2) Dany
3) Bran
4) Jaime

That’s it. Arya doesn’t meet any of the requirements of Azor Ahai/the Prince that was Promised, and if Jaime kills him that would make him Aerys’ biological son.

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2. Jaime had to die with Cersei.


No, because then Cersei gets her way in the end. Jaime should have killed Cersei, and I’m pretty damn confident he will in the books if it is ever released. Cersei was on borrowed time on the show since I’m sure the Burning of King’s Landing it will be Faegon and Arianne that are the victims of it, and they leave those two characters out of the show which I think was a major frick up by the show runners.

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3. The Unsullied should have killed Jon.


Ummmm, I mean logically they would have, but no. I don’t have a problem with where Jon, Sansa, and Arya end up with Jon riding north of the Wall, but I have a problem with how they got there.

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4. The Hound and The Mountain had to die fighting each other.


Yeah, but I would have preferred for the Hound to kill the Mountain with a flaming sword.

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5. Jon had to kill Dany.


Agreed.

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6. Jon was never going to willingly sit in the Iron Throne.


That’s besides the point. That’s what makes him a good king is he wants none of that.

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7. No opinion one way or the other on Bran The Broken as King. About as exciting as Edmure Tully.


Unfortunately, I can see GRRM making Bran king in the end. Him blowing himself as storytellers being the most important members of society seems like something this narcissist may write. I’m going to tell you though, he better have something better than this in the books (naively assuming they’ll ever be released). “Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?” Everyone, including Edmure Tully. Personally I just wish they would have gone back to the Seven Kingdoms in the end and there be no overall king/queen.

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8. Drogon took Dany to Asshai where she was brought back to life by a Red Priestess.


No

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Would love to see a short “Odd Couple-like” series featuring the “Master of Grammar”(Ser Davos) and the “Lord of Lofty Titles”(Ser Bronn).


Honestly Bronn becoming the Lord of Highgarden and the Master of Coin might be the dumbest fricking thing on the show. Bronn is illiterate for starters, and just keeps getting dumber from there.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31927 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:56 am to
Here is my somewhat unpopular opinion…

If they had flipped the order of events in the final season it wouldn’t have been so bad.

- first half of the final season is Dany/Jon uniting and going to kings Landing to try and get Cersei on their side

- Dany goes crazy and burns the city, events unfold as they did with Jamie dying, hound dying etc…

- Jon rejects the crown and Bran is named king (but not with that stupid round table scene).

- Then they all deal with the Night King with events unfolding the same way, even Arya killing him.


I think people would’ve been way happier that way. Yes they may have rolled their eyes at some stuff still but the anticipation of the big showdown with the Night King and the unknown of whether anyone would survive would have kept people more engaged.

They wouldn’t have been able to have the dragon fight unless Drogon showed up on his own or something but so what.

Think about it the final episode would have been that epic battle and the show would’ve gone out on a much better note.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108567 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:57 am to
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Only watched the first episode but I’ve been debating watching the whole series but people say the last season ruins the show


If you decide to, stop at the end of Season 6. I promise you anything you imagine is better than what we ended up with. I have yet to hear any other fan ending that is worse than what we got. It was so bad that it actually united the country for a couple of weeks due to how awful it was.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8567 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:04 am to
If you’re binging then the last season won’t suck as much as it did for people that followed it live. It still sucks but the early seasons are some of the greatest episodes of television
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:06 am to
The problem with the final season(and several leading up to it) is not that those specific events took place, it’s how the writers contorted or outright broke the personalities of the characters through internally illogical or non established motives, often regressing their growth entiriely(like in the case of Jaimie, Tyrion, Littlefinger, Cersei, and Viserys, who all were just conveniently made stupid and reactionary in the face of all the show set up about them prior to serve the larger plot destinations) story elements that betrayed their set up and were executed poorly, and contrived all manner of plot points to get us to the story endings they wanted.

And frankly, hearing recent interviews with GRRM about what was going on behind the scenes, makes it clear D&D’s ego’s were out of control and they were also simply not interested in continuing a show that could have ran several more seasons to properly set everything up and execute everything more satisfyingly, but they were also selfish and unwilling to let another showrunner step in to do it, so they pushed for the nonsense we got.

A good reminder also of how much the cast believed in this season
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This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38822 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:13 am to
the finale of season six was perfect and a great place to stop watching. The only thing you’ll miss that’s worth your time is the dragon attack on the lannister convoy and you can watch that on YouTube
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 11:19 am
Posted by VeniVidiVici
Gaul
Member since Feb 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:32 am to
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7. No opinion one way or the other on Bran The Broken as King.


JFC, man
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22081 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:50 am to
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If you decide to, stop at the end of Season 6.


Season six did end with the best episode of the series, so there’s that.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16846 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:42 pm to
I was late to the game on GOT. But when I got there I loved it. But know what I know about the final season and the actors telling the Producers this would be the last season. They needed to end it. And the final half of the last season looked like they through it all together. Once the killed off the M I nester from the cold. I can not remember the name of the creature. It was very disappointing the way a everyone died.
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