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re: O/U 15 years until Harry Potter is rebooted...
Posted on 9/16/20 at 5:14 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 9/16/20 at 5:14 pm to Dr RC
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the frick?
I don't know a single person who even wants the multiple sequels Cameron is doing let along a TV series.
Airbender not Blue Man Group. Disney actually has the rights to the Cameron’s Avatar.
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HBO is basically turning into WB's streaming service so it's not going to go away anytime soon.
Yeah, but it could turn into Peacock or Paramount’s future streaming service with Netflix, Amazon, and Disney leaving it behind in the dust.
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:20 pm to Hester Carries
Make it a TV show and make it as dark as the books.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:37 pm to OMLandshark
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It’s rumored that Netflix’s Avatar series first season has a budget of 250-300 million dollars.
Blue guys or the airbenders?
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:46 pm to Dr RC
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I don't know a single person who even wants the multiple sequels Cameron is doing let along a TV series.
Wrong Avatar. But you don’t make it to $2.7 billion plus at the Global BO if people aren’t interested. Throw in the backing of tHoM and that’s why Disney doesn’t give a frick about doing anymore Star Wars movies for the foreseeable future.
Fun fact: With Disney’s purchase of FOX, they have the rights to the 5 highest grossing movies of all time. They own 8 of the top 10 and 10 of the top 12.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:50 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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But you don’t make it to $2.7 billion plus at the Global BO if people aren’t interested.
There are things called fads though too and the fact that the Chinese like simplistic stupid stories with no nuance that look cool. There’s no way the sequels gross anywhere near that high.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:52 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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JK Rowling got canceled for some dumb reason, no more Hogwarts for your Harry Potter.
We should probably wait until her new novel doesn't instantly sell well to say she's canceled, considering the only people that have actually been financially "canceled" so far committed crimes.
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so many SJWs are Harry Potter fanatics
I laugh my arse off seeing people that sooo bad want to hurt her financially but they literally can't bring themselves to step away from Harry Potter.
People. People are Harry Potter fans. I suggest getting off Twitter. We have increasing evidence that it both is not real life and that it's influence here makes posters dumber.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:01 pm to OMLandshark
Avatar grossed just over $200 million in China. What’s funny is people shite on Avatar’s story as being so simple and a copy of other stories (which is nothing new for Hollywood), but that’s the exact reason why it was such a success. Take a simple accessible story and throw it in a complex/unique environment and use groundbreaking technology to deliver it to audiences. Boom profit.
I seriously doubt tHoM expects Avatar 2 to gross in the ballpark as the original. But let’s say it’s gross is only half of the original. That puts it at just under $1.4 billion worldwide. That would be the 12th highest grossing movie of all time. It will probably do somewhere in the 60-70% range. That’s in the $1.6 to 1.9 billion range. For a $400 million P+M that’s a profit of minimum $300 million anywhere up to $550 million just from the box office, ignoring any direct tie-ins. And who knows how merch will do.
I seriously doubt tHoM expects Avatar 2 to gross in the ballpark as the original. But let’s say it’s gross is only half of the original. That puts it at just under $1.4 billion worldwide. That would be the 12th highest grossing movie of all time. It will probably do somewhere in the 60-70% range. That’s in the $1.6 to 1.9 billion range. For a $400 million P+M that’s a profit of minimum $300 million anywhere up to $550 million just from the box office, ignoring any direct tie-ins. And who knows how merch will do.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:08 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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I seriously doubt tHoM expects Avatar 2 to gross in the ballpark as the original. But let’s say it’s gross is only half of the original. That puts it at just under $1.4 billion worldwide. That would be the 12th highest grossing movie of all time. It will probably do somewhere in the 60-70% range. That’s in the $1.6 to 1.9 billion range. For a $400 million P+M that’s a profit of minimum $300 million anywhere up to $550 million just from the box office, ignoring any direct tie-ins. And who knows how merch will do.
Maybe I'm being too generous here, but Disney doesn't build an entire fricking land in their marquee theme parks for Avatar without major plans to deliver a global phenomenon.
This is doubly important after the relatively catastrophic failure of Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge which was neutered by the missteps of the sequel trilogy and disdain for fans.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:09 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Avatar grossed just over $200 million in China.
Because the Chinese government cut it off.
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What’s funny is people shite on Avatar’s story as being so simple and a copy of other stories (which is nothing new for Hollywood), but that’s the exact reason why it was such a success. Take a simple accessible story and throw it in a complex/unique environment and use groundbreaking technology to deliver it to audiences. Boom profit.
I agree that James Cameron is a fiscal genius, but it was so blatantly ripped off from much better works. He announced Avatar 1 year after Princess Mononoke was released, which I think that’s the movie he primarily ripped off and removed all the nuance from it. Jake Sully doomed everyone on that planet by exiling all the humans. Can’t blame the Na’vi because they don’t know nor can imagine what humanity is truly capable of, but Jake knows that. All the humans are going to do is return in 15 years and launch a nuke from space at that tree. Jake either knows they can do this or he’s extremely, extremely stupid. Cameron very much praised the film and said it was the primary basis on Avatar, but he completely missed the point of the film (intentionally or otherwise).
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:10 pm to Hester Carries
In the new series Harry Potter will hate Hogwarts and try to murder Ron and Hermione’s child while he sleeps.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:33 pm to OMLandshark
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Because the Chinese government cut it off.
.... okay? You just helped prove my point.
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He announced Avatar 1 year after Princess Mononoke was released, which I think that’s the movie he primarily ripped off and removed all the nuance from it. Jake Sully doomed everyone on that planet by exiling all the humans. Can’t blame the Na’vi because they don’t know nor can imagine what humanity is truly capable of, but Jake knows that. All the humans are going to do is return in 15 years and launch a nuke from space at that tree. Jake either knows they can do this or he’s extremely, extremely stupid. Cameron very much praised the film and said it was the primary basis on Avatar, but he completely missed the point of the film (intentionally or otherwise).
Cameron wrote the first treatment in 1994 and was telling people during the production of Titanic that he was going to film it right after Titanic was released for a 1999 release.
But either way, even if what you claim is true, you just reinforced my point. Simple and easily accessible = success. Why do you think The Mandalorian was so successful? Stranger Things? The Witcher?
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:44 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Cameron wrote the first treatment in 1994 and was telling people during the production of Titanic that he was going to film it right after Titanic was released for a 1999 release.
But either way, even if what you claim is true, you just reinforced my point. Simple and easily accessible = success. Why do you think The Mandalorian was so successful? Stranger Things? The Witcher?
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t see why James Cameron’s Avatar is a guaranteed successful franchise. No one talks about it anymore. I think it’s one of Cameron’s least talked about films in the modern era. A ride at Disneyworld doesn’t count.
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:51 pm to OMLandshark
I don’t see the Avatar sequels being “successful” compared to the original.
Avatar came out perfectly with the introduction to 3D movies. It was the biggest, prettiest 3D movie at the time so everyone went see it to check out the technology.
It wasn’t anything to do with the movie itself.
Avatar came out perfectly with the introduction to 3D movies. It was the biggest, prettiest 3D movie at the time so everyone went see it to check out the technology.
It wasn’t anything to do with the movie itself.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:58 pm to OMLandshark
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Avatar grossed just over $200 million in China.
Because the Chinese government cut it off.
$200 million in China in 2009 for an American blockbuster was huge. The first Avengers film made around $85 million there 3 years later.
The emergence of China as such a huge market for some American blockbusters is remarkably recent.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:02 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, but it could turn into Peacock or Paramount’s future streaming service with Netflix, Amazon, and Disney leaving it behind in the dust.
Yeah it doesn’t help that HBO MAX is still not on the Roku. I have a feeling that holding out is hurting HBO more than Roku.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:09 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:She may be an SJW herself (or an appeaser at least), but she is still legitimately funny.
I laugh my arse off seeing people that sooo bad want to hurt her financially but they literally can't bring themselves to step away from Harry Potter. Rowling doesn't give a shite if fans hate her or not. They can hate her all they want but they still give her money
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:15 pm to OMLandshark
quote:If you're talking about making fantasy blockbuster series, ...
Amazon is investing a billion dollars for the first two seasons of Lord of the Rings. It’s rumored that Netflix’s Avatar series first season has a budget of 250-300 million dollars. Then there’s all the Star Wars series Disney is going to be pushing out. They’ll pay that cash for Harry Potter if that’s what their competition is doing. If HBO doesn’t want to go the way of Blockbuster then I don’t think they have a choice but to make some huge fantasy series, and they’re sitting on one hell of a property to do it.
Who has the rights to Robert E Howard's works? I want to see Conan, done right and true to the books, more than I want to see Harry Potter. The Hyborian Age map is laid out as well as Middle Earth or Westeros, and as an added bonus you could have the potential inclusion of Lovecraft's Cthulu Mythos added into the mix (the two writers corresponded a lot).
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:25 pm to Scoob
No idea, but that could be a goldmine.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:33 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I laugh my arse off seeing people that sooo bad want to hurt her financially but they literally can't bring themselves to step away from Harry Potter.
Yep, me too. If anyone thinks they can hurt Rowling financially at this point they are kinda stupid. She’s worth over 500 million at least. Not buying her new book isn’t going to change that.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:35 pm to OMLandshark
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I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t see why James Cameron’s Avatar is a guaranteed successful franchise. No one talks about it anymore. I think it’s one of Cameron’s least talked about films in the modern era. A ride at Disneyworld doesn’t count.
It’s not just one ride, it’s an entire section of the park and it’s a busy part of the park. The only part of the parks that were busier when I went was Smuggler’s Run.
And it also had a 3 and a half year Cirque de Soleil show.
As for people talking about it daily, I mean how many movies do people really talk about daily? Outside of the big established franchises like Marvel/DC, Star Wars, and Harry Potter?
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