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re: Nothing happens in Empire Strikes Back until the last 20 minutes
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:11 pm to jeff5891
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:11 pm to jeff5891
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their knowledge. C3pO was already being used as a translator
R2 is just used as a drink cart. As for 3PO, doesn't it seem really dumb to you that Jabba doesn't already have a protocol droid in his service? Given Jabba's court and who he deals with and entertains, you'd think having a translator would be a daily necessity. I guess it's possible Luke happened to look in the classifieds that day and saw Jabba's protocol droid just broke and needed a new one, but that's all I can see.
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you just complained about wanting luke to use something as a way in, then kill everyone and now you are complaining bc you think Luke would let Jabba keep them? Is this serious?
You're missing my point. Let's say he gets Han out peacefully by Luke offering 3PO and R2. Then what? How is he going to get them out of the situation? They are left in the same predicament as they were earlier, now only with 2 of them to rescue.
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:14 pm to blueboy
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Why does Luke go to the cloud city at all. He doesn't save Han and the others didn't need him to escape.
Well, it's emphasized that Luke made the wrong decision by going to the Cloud City. If Luke didn't go, yes Han is still taken by Boba Fett, but Leia and Chewie would have likely escaped with Lando, which puts us in the same predicament as before. This is entirely addressed in the plot that Luke should not have gone to face off with Vader. There are no logical inconsistencies here.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:18 pm to OMLandshark
quote:so one instance means that is the only use Jabba will get out of R2?
Used as a drink cart
quote:did you watch the movie?
for 3PO, doesn't it seem really dumb to you that Jabba doesn't already have a protocol droid in his service?
quote:dude, he offered the droids to get close to Jabba so he could kill him without having to go guns blazing from outside the wall. If he kills Jabba right away maybe his followers don't attack after he is dead. That's plan A. It didn't work out.
Then what? How is he going to get them out of the situation? They are left in the same predicament as they were earlier, now only with 2 of them to rescue
He was never planning on having a peaceful exchange.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:19 pm to OMLandshark
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As for 3PO, doesn't it seem really dumb to you that Jabba doesn't already have a protocol droid in his service?
"We have been without an interpreter since our master got angry with our last protocol droid and disintegrated him."
It was a better plan than Han and Finn had in TFA - to show up and hope they could talk someone into lowering the shield.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:22 pm to Master of Sinanju
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"We have been without an interpreter since our master got angry with our last protocol droid and disintegrated him."
Touché. I'll give you that one. Hadn't thought about it until that post, and that just stuck out at me. At least that plot hole is addressed.
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It was a better plan than Han and Finn had in TFA - to show up and hope they could talk someone into lowering the shield.
Yeah, they were winging it, but the movie makes it clear there weren't many options on the table. Jabba on the other hand can be reasoned with and Han is going nowhere, so I think they'd have time to come up with a better plan.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:25 pm to jeff5891
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dude, he offered the droids to get close to Jabba so he could kill him without having to go guns blazing from outside the wall. If he kills Jabba right away maybe his followers don't attack after he is dead. That's plan A. It didn't work out.
Aside from R2 flinging up Luke's lightsaber in the air, how was this going to be accomplished by them? No seriously, I have no idea aside from R2 carrying a lightsaber (which Luke should have just carried in himself) how they could have helped in taking down Jabba. Plus 3PO was certainly in the dark about all this. I'm really curious on how they were going to help on this.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:25 pm to steeltiger17
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:03 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, they were winging it, but the movie makes it clear there weren't many options on the table. Jabba on the other hand can be reasoned with and Han is going nowhere, so I think they'd have time to come up with a better plan.
No, they were pretty pressed for time considering they almost immediately (in a matter of hours or days) went to the fleet to attack Death Star II.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:12 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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No, they were pretty pressed for time considering they almost immediately (in a matter of hours or days) went to the fleet to attack Death Star II.
Well, how did Han help out? He may have rigged the charges and tricked the idiots in the base to come outside, but I doubt they actually needed him to do that.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:14 pm to OMLandshark
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Well, how did Han help out? He may have rigged the charges and tricked the idiots in the base to come outside, but I doubt they actually needed him to do that.
Now you're moving the goal posts.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:21 pm to blueboy
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I saw all three in theaters, and Jedi was more well liked than Empire. Internet message board homos preferring Empire is a phenomenon of the last decade or so.
No, that's not true at all. Empire has long been consider one of the best movies ever, and often lauded as one of the few sequels superior to its original. Jedi has almost universally been considered the weakest of the original trilogy.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:35 am to KingSlayer
quote:1/10
No, that's not true at all. Empire has long been consider one of the best movies ever, and often lauded as one of the few sequels superior to its original. Jedi has almost universally been considered the weakest of the original trilogy.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:39 am to OMLandshark
quote:Yes there are. Yda says that he could help them (which he doesn't, really, but that he would "destroy all for which they have fought and suffered" which he does not. His presence does nothing to affect the outcome.
Well, it's emphasized that Luke made the wrong decision by going to the Cloud City. If Luke didn't go, yes Han is still taken by Boba Fett, but Leia and Chewie would have likely escaped with Lando, which puts us in the same predicament as before. This is entirely addressed in the plot that Luke should not have gone to face off with Vader. There are no logical inconsistencies here.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:03 am to blueboy
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Yes there are. Yda says that he could help them (which he doesn't, really, but that he would "destroy all for which they have fought and suffered" which he does not. His presence does nothing to affect the outcome.
Yoda's point in all this is that Luke could either be killed by Vader or turned to the Dark Side by Vader if he went. That was a possibility given his ancestry and similar anger issues like his father. Yoda did not know exactly what would happen other than the fact that Luke would lose to Vader.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 8:01 am
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:48 am to steeltiger17
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:50 am to steeltiger17
Lol, obvious troll thread... 
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:00 am to OMLandshark
quote:That's not at all what he said. You're just inferring shite to support your argument.
Yoda's point in all this is that Luke could either be killed by Vader or turned to the Dark Side by Vader if he went. That was a possibility given his ancestry and similar anger issues like his father. Yoda did not know exactly what would happen other than the fact that Luke would lose to Vader.
While nitpicking Jedi. Pretty weak, dude.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:55 am to blueboy
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Internet message board homos preferring Empire is a phenomenon of the last decade or so.
Except that it was always my favorite movie as a child even after ROTJ came out. Empire was and will always be my favorite of the series. A lot of people feel that way and I don't think Message Boards have anything to do with it.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:04 am to RollDatRoll
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This is a very unpopular opinion but Return of Jedi > ESB
Yep.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:42 am to statman34
Well, you were special, then. No one disliked Empire, but they generally thought Jedi was better.
Though Star Wars was and is the overwhelming #1. Disney will make a fortune off of its legacy, but they'll never duplicate the enormity of it, and that drives them nuts.
Though Star Wars was and is the overwhelming #1. Disney will make a fortune off of its legacy, but they'll never duplicate the enormity of it, and that drives them nuts.
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