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Posted on 4/29/20 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 10:42 pm to
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Who voted for Jeremy and who voted for Kim?



Pretty sure it was Kim, Denise, and Michelle voting for Jeremy (they actually showed Michelle’s vote).

Michelle doing that could actually be big for her. Jeremy knows she did it so they wouldn’t know she was trying to help him, so now they will trust her and tell her their plans so she can play both sides.

They may also think Jeremy has an idol now because he pulled out that pouch, which could confuse their plans on how to vote.


Will be interesting to see it all shakes out. Still not sure who is actually working together long term or if they’re just taking it one week at a time.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted by huskerdawg5
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2017
196 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:25 pm to
Ben went straight to Tony to let them know Kim was organizing a future blindside against him. That definitely led to Kim's demise.

I'm confused though as to why Ben told him before tribal since he wanted Jeremy out so badly. He could have simply told Tony after so Kim would be the next target.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13303 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:10 am to
Once Nick told Kim that Ben told Tony, she should’ve flipped the vote. That was idiotiic.

He has no allies, and Jeremy would’ve been on board. That’s five votes for Ben, and he’s gone. I doubt he would’ve played the idol either.

Kim and her three would’ve been able to pick the others off with ease.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:09 am to
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Man that was pretty ballsy by Jeremy too. But he trusted Tony, who is absolutely running shite.

Glad Denise got shite on her face after that interaction before the votes


I had no idea how that would turn out but I felt Kim would be voted out. Ben has no one to blame but himself. Tony would’ve been stupid to give his idol
up. That target is huge on him right now.

Denise, bad move for sure.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:14 am to
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But it’s still funny to see Denise disrespect him like that thinking he’s going home then get completely blindsided.

Don’t think her and Jeremy ever had issues so just seemed kind of a bitch move imo.

The game is being played moment by moment. Not day by day and that reaction by Denise will be her demise. It was for sure shortsighted. Tribal proved it’s a moment by moment game.

Why those others didn’t go after Ben is baffling and I still can’t figure out Ben’s game.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103997 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:29 am to
Ben is the ultimate wild card at this point, but somehow despite the animosity between him and Jeremy they have stuck with Tony the whole way. I guess they are all confident enough to think they can win in the end, but based on the jury's reactions there's no one that can beat Tony.

I wonder if Sarah is going to realize that and eventually turn on him or if she's going to be this season's Woo and stick with him to the end no matter what?

Denise can still win, but she has to eliminate Tony and Jeremy. Even though Jeremy has been hanging on to Tony's coattails for dear life the last few weeks he's going to win over the jury against Denise.

Nick and Michele just seem to be afterthoughts right now. I don't know that either of them can win unless it's the two of them and the extinction returnee at the end.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24831 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:36 am to
Its going to be bad if the outcome of the final 3 end up being how Jeremy's coin flip goes. But he may have to give it back to the pretty girl after today??
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103997 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:39 am to
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Its going to be bad if the outcome of the final 3 end up being how Jeremy's coin flip goes. But he may have to give it back to the pretty girl after today??


It would be a dick move to keep it. He would also be smart to keep it. It's not like Michele is going to be getting any votes anytime soon.
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
3019 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:20 am to
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Nick and Michele just seem to be afterthoughts right now. I don't know that either of them can win unless it's the two of them and the extinction returnee at the end.



I think if any extinction returnee makes it to the end they win against anyone but Tony.

Don't undervalue how strong the bonds that they make on edge of extinction are. Talk about a shared experience without the game element. The majority of the jury will be cheering and hoping that person makes it to the end so that they can reward him/her. Only person who I think beats that is Tony as he's had a huge target on his back and controlled this game since the merge.
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
6085 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:26 am to
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Why those others didn’t go after Ben is baffling and I still can’t figure out Ben’s game.



Ben is awful, and for a past winner, is playing a terrible game. His only saving grace is that he is aligned with Tony, albeit weakly. If he doesn't find that idol last night, he's dead meat. Finding it with Tony, only makes him slightly less dead meat.
His wishy-washiness will be his demise.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103997 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:28 am to
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Don't undervalue how strong the bonds that they make on edge of extinction are. Talk about a shared experience without the game element.


That definitely happened last time there was the Extinction twist... but I don't know if it will this time around with all winners.

Also depends on who is the returnee and who are the other two.

Yeah, if Rob gets back in and goes against Michele and Nick, it probably would be Rob.

If Wendell or Adam gets back in... doubtful.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10882 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:35 am to
That couldn't have gone any better for Tony. He got to show his loyalty to Sarah without even having to use his idol and he got the second strongest player to stand down in front of the entire jury.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103997 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:37 am to
Tony is a few more elimination wins or idols away from playing the perfect game.

I was really hoping his spy nest would come more into play.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:49 am to
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Nick and Michele just seem to be afterthoughts right now



Nick at the start of last night's episode - It's a perfect opportunity for me to shake up the game and get some big threats out of the way.

Tony to Nick - We're voting Kim out.

Nick - Okay.


That's the 2nd or 3rd time NIck has just rolled over and acquiesced to someone else's plan.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103997 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:52 am to
Yeah, I think had Tony not won elimination then Nick would have stuck with Kim, Denise, and Michele to try to get Tony out. They would have still needed Ben's wishy washy arse to get in line or it could have been a tie.


And that's assuming Tony doesn't sniff it out and play his idol.

I think once Tony won elimination and plan A was gone, it all went to shite.

ETA: And Tony won (well, he might have won anyway) because Nick gave up to get a fire token and some food!
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 8:53 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:05 am to
Yeah, Tony's win definitely put a kink in the plans, but they could have still blindsided Tony by voting someone on his side out. I mean, there wasn't even any mention of voting for Sarah or Ben, and Kim nailed it in one of those side conversations at tribal - Tony, Sarah, and Ben are taking control of the game.

But I say all that just watching it on TV. Actually being in the game this season has to be driving some of them insane. The paranoia and fluidity of the game this season is insane, though somewhat expected.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103997 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:40 am to
Sarah was mentioned at tribal, to the point where Tony was considering using his idol. Ben still has never really come up as a target, somehow.

Smart thing would have been to keep all the attention on Jeremy to distract Tony, then blindside Sarah. They would have had to either keep Ben in on it, or pull Jeremy in, though. And both know that voting Sarah out is going to break any alliance they have with Tony.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11116 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:01 am to
The constant whispering at tribal has to be nerve wracking. The bottom feeders are annoying though now that most of the better players have been voted out. Denise, Nick, and Michelle can all get off the island.

I enjoy watching Tony play. Dude is legit! But now everyone knows he has an idol.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3720 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:16 am to
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Once Nick told Kim that Ben told Tony, she should’ve flipped the vote. That was idiotiic. He has no allies, and Jeremy would’ve been on board. That’s five votes for Ben, and he’s gone. I doubt he would’ve played the idol either. Kim and her three would’ve been able to pick the others off with ease.


I liked Kim as a player and thought she played a good game up until this episode. She made 3 big mistakes on this episode:

1. Why start orchestrating a plan to vote someone out prior to the immunity challenge? All it can do is hurt you if word gets out ans your target can win immunity making it a totally worthless risk.

2. Stepping down from an immunity challenge for food.

3. Not flipping the vote to target Ben after he showed his loyalty was with Tony. (Ben has an immunity idol but they don’t know that)

Tony should win. They need him to be vulnerable two weeks in a row now so they can make him feel the need to play the idol one week and then get him out the next - before he finds another idol.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103997 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:19 am to
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She made 3 big mistakes on this episode:


Definitely. Agreed on all three.

Michele is the only one who should have stepped down, she wasn't particularly vulnerable.
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