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re: No Country for Old Men - was Anton Chigurh behind the door or not?
Posted on 5/13/22 at 3:54 pm to Salmon
Posted on 5/13/22 at 3:54 pm to Salmon
I always assumed he was in the other room.
What other instances in the movie are there of peoples imaginations manifesting themselves visually to the audience? If I recall it's not that kind of movie.
The theory of him representing death is a haunting metaphor, but is only a post viewing interpretation.
What other instances in the movie are there of peoples imaginations manifesting themselves visually to the audience? If I recall it's not that kind of movie.
The theory of him representing death is a haunting metaphor, but is only a post viewing interpretation.
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Posted on 5/13/22 at 4:01 pm to BRich
That and Moss rented one behind the room his was killed in as a way to get the package through the vent like he had earlier. So possibly three rooms at play.
Anyway, there’s nothing imaginative going on here other than the director decided to obscure that it was two rooms, probably to spike the intensity of the scene, which it very much did.
Anyway, there’s nothing imaginative going on here other than the director decided to obscure that it was two rooms, probably to spike the intensity of the scene, which it very much did.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 11:06 pm to rebelrouser
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Hammer down on loaded chamber is dangerous.
I beg to differ. Based on my own extensive experience carrying in that exact manner.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 11:46 pm to BRich
That scene always bugged me too. I think at the time I decided he was in a different room hidden in the closet, but I still don’t honestly know.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:04 am to minimal
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I always assumed he was in the other room.
And this is very common in movies, fooling the audience that the bad guy is behind the door. I don't think its more complicated than that. Its a Coen film not Bergman...metaphors of death don't jive with the rest of the film as OP points out, which constantly uses hotel rooms for misdirection.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 12:05 am
Posted on 5/14/22 at 6:02 am to SaintTiger80
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I saw an analysis of this movie and Anton Chigurh's character literally represents death.
This has always been my takeaway about the character.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:36 am to BRich
There was a similar scene in the book. Yes, he was there and the sherif was upset with himself for not trying to stop him because he then kills Carla Jean.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:39 am to SaintTiger80
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Anton Chigurh's character literally represents death.
Maybe a bit more than that even. I think this analysis is pretty good:
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Though Chigurh is ruthless in his killing, he is described as a man with principles. He is the only person in the novel who doesn’t care about the money in the briefcase. He perceives himself as the arbiter of fate, and operates outside of conventional understandings of justice and morality. As opposed to an orientation that posits God as the ultimate judge, he believes only in choice, chance, and fate. He sometimes preaches his philosophy before killing his victims, leaving the ultimate decision of whether the individual lives or dies to a coin toss. While Chigurh often seems above the law, he is subject to the laws of choice, chance, and fate like the other characters, as shown through his injuries in the car accident at the end of the novel.
From LINK
Chigurh exceeded what he was allowed to do when he killed Carla Jean (that was him personally, rather than fate), and the car accident was retribution from the universe/God/Karma - whatever works for you.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:01 pm to minimal
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The theory of him representing death is a haunting metaphor, but is only a post viewing interpretation.
Perhaps, but it’s still just as valid. Good art, when released by the artist, is open to the interpretations of its consumers, whether the artist had them consciously in mind or not.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:11 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And this is very common in movies, fooling the audience that the bad guy is behind the door. I don't think its more complicated than that. Its a Coen film not Bergman
It was clearly cut like it was to add tension, but you’re underestimating the Coen’s by suggesting their films lack depth. It’s not as obvious as in Bergman’s, but it’s there.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:59 pm to BRich
They did a similar but different trick earlier in the film when Chigurh opened the door and killed the Mexicans. The viewer thought it was Moss’s room. I always thought it was just a variation of that. Not my favorite scene in the movie honestly.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:10 pm to beaverfever
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They did a similar but different trick earlier in the film when Chigurh opened the door and killed the Mexicans
Speaking of which, another thing that bugged me. Chigurh shoots the guy lounging on the bed, then the closed bathroom door bursts open and that Mexican starts shooting a machine gun, but Chigurh takes him out. Chigurh then goes into the bathroom and finds the third Mexican trying to hide in the tub/ shower, closes the curtain, and kills him.
What the hell were those two Mexicans (#2 and #3) doing in the bathroom together, with the door closed?
Hmmm....
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:11 am to BRich
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Seeing him more or less = death. Some particular references:
After the killing in the skyscraper, the accountant asks, "Are you gonna kill me?" to which Chigurh replies, "That depends. Do you see me?"
Some people wonder if he let the accountant live. I laugh at that. That line is a rhetorical question. Of course, Chigurh kills the accountant.
When Wells is talking to Moss in the hospital room, he say's "You've seen him? And you're not dead?" Then gives this "huh" as if that's one of the most surprising things he's heard in a while.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:30 am to BRich
I always watched it thinking the scene is of two different rooms.
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