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re: New Posters and Trailer #1 for James Bond 007: No Time to Die
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Well it wasn’t considering Skyfall is by far the best Bond movie ever made.
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:39 pm to Centinel
It’s a dramatically, hilariously superior movie than any other Bond, in every way imaginable. Acting, Directing, Writing, Cinematography. It’s not even close. It’s the only Bond that’s a real movie.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:40 pm to GetCocky11
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We did in Goldfinger. A whole gang of them.
Pussy Galore and her aerobatic troop .... best Bond Girl ever.
I think maybe Moonraker had one or two as well. Also, there was another one, gymnastic killers, maybe that was Moonraker too because I'm pretty sure it was a Roger Moore version. But it may have been the one with Jill St John ... I just can't remember. I remember the room, the house on the hill and the pool outside and the fight in the room and the gymnastics lesbians.
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All they have to do is follow the Bond formula. If they do that, it will be fine.
-Exotic locations
-Guns
-Explosions
-Cheesy dialogue
-Plunging necklines
You forgot impossible situations (from which he escapes), vodka martinis and cool gadgets and cars.
ETA: oh, a cool theme songs. My personal favs are ....
Diamonds Are Forever
You Only Live Twice
For Your Eyes Only
Goldfinger
Live and Let Die
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:00 pm to RollTide1987
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I did and I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing. My argument is that Vesper was both attracted to Bond from the very beginning and also a very strong and independent woman in her own right.
Them: were going to have a strong, independent, brilliant female role, that cleverly shoots down bond. No more helpless girls
Me: we had that in Casino Royale
You: no we didn't
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
The best Bond film in recent memory was Mission Impossible Rogue Nation, but will see this Bond movie nonetheless
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It’s a dramatically, hilariously superior movie than any other Bond, in every way imaginable. Acting, Directing, Writing, Cinematography. It’s not even close. It’s the only Bond that’s a real movie.
You have consistently awful takes
I don’t believe for one second that you’ve ever seen from Russia with love, on her majesty’s secret service, license to kill, etc
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:15 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Muh Ruined Childhood!
The world is too full of pieces of shite who stand for nothing and are actually proud of it.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:17 pm to REG861
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I don’t believe for one second that you’ve ever seen from Russia with love, on her majesty’s secret service, license to kill, etc
On her majestys secret service has to be one of the most underrated bond flicks. I upvote you for mentioning it!
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:22 pm to stateofplay
I go back and forth on if OHMSS would have been better with Sean Connery. It is one of my absolute favorite Bonds.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:22 pm to REG861
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You have consistently awful takes
I’m not going to write a novel as to why you’re wrong, why don’t you go listen to the rewatchables podcast on Skyfall and if there’s anything there you’d like to discuss with me in detail, let me know.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:37 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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why don’t you go listen to the rewatchables podcast on Skyfall
They really lay out their cards early by introducing the film as the Bond film "engineered to win Oscars." It's one of the main reasons I don't love Skyfall. It always feels like it's trying so hard. It beats me over the head with "prestige." I've seen every Bond, but I don't love any outside of From Russia with Love. Plenty are good, though.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:42 pm to Jay Are
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They really lay out their cards early by introducing the film as the Bond film "engineered to win Oscars." It's one of the main reasons I don't love Skyfall.
Wait so you don’t like intentionally well made movies?
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feels like it's trying so hard
To what? Be a good movie? Okie dokie then.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
My problem with Skyfall is that it was basically The Dark Knight. Plus M died so it felt like nothing was really accomplished. Not to mention it’s a movie away from Casino Royale and now 007 is suddenly this washed up old agent.
The ending scene was badass because I thought it was going to lead to Bond being Bond again. Then we got Spectre.
The ending scene was badass because I thought it was going to lead to Bond being Bond again. Then we got Spectre.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Well it wasn’t considering Skyfall is by far the best Bond movie ever made.
You misspelled Goldfinger.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Wait so you don’t like intentionally well made movies?
So you like all movies people regularly categorize as "Oscar-bait"? I don't like when directors hire Roger Deakins and then think their movie is automatically going to be awesome.
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To what? Be a good movie? Okie dokie then
Yeah. It's trying so desperately to be serious when it hasn't done anything in its writing to rise above the standard Bond fare. It's no better than, say, Casino Royale, which is a good Bond film. Mads Mikkelson is better than Javier Bardem, it helps that Mikkelson's character and dialogue aren't over-written practically to death. The Shanghai sequence is really cool. The Macao (or whatever island) stuff is intense. The climax is silly. It requires you to care about M, but it never actually tries to establish M as a complex character. It's all lifeless exposition. At the end of a movie, no less. It's standard "evil villain explains his plan" dressed up as emotional turmoil. It's phony. Additionally, I think Craig is a fine Bond, but his seriousness in Skyfall is comic.
Sorry, is that a good enough response to your flippant sarcasm?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
The fact that Cary Fukunaga is directing keeps me optimistic.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:11 pm to Damone
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The fact that Cary Fukunaga is directing keeps me optimistic.
This plus the villain being Rami Malek interests me .
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Skyfall was a great Bond movie, but woof this is a bad take.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:43 am to joeyb147
You quoted text that talked about two different things:
Which made it look like you were implying that Bond got hilariously shot down by Vesper in Casino Royale, when in actuality she was very attracted to him from the very first scene onward.
This idea of strong, independent women in the Bond franchise has been around since before even Casino Royale, which confused me even more as to what you were arguing. Halle Berry's Jinx was a bad arse secret agent for the CIA in Die Another Day and that movie was released four years prior to Casino Royale. Some of the more classic Bond girls such as Honey Ryder, Pussy Galore, and Tracy Draco were some of the strongest and most independent women of the franchise.
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“The phrase ‘Bond girl’ was outlawed from the set. The women in this film are all strong, brave and fiercely independent. These women are not helpless girls who jump into bed with Bond – their reactions are very different from what people might think.
Bond tries his usual seduction techniques but they fail miserably. It’s very funny.”
Which made it look like you were implying that Bond got hilariously shot down by Vesper in Casino Royale, when in actuality she was very attracted to him from the very first scene onward.
This idea of strong, independent women in the Bond franchise has been around since before even Casino Royale, which confused me even more as to what you were arguing. Halle Berry's Jinx was a bad arse secret agent for the CIA in Die Another Day and that movie was released four years prior to Casino Royale. Some of the more classic Bond girls such as Honey Ryder, Pussy Galore, and Tracy Draco were some of the strongest and most independent women of the franchise.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:41 am to FairhopeTider
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Plus M died so it felt like nothing was really accomplished.
One of the best parts about Skyfall was seeing M actually do something in a Bond movie. Judi Dench did well in the action scenes for an 80 year old.
I personally enjoy Casino Royale more, but Skyfall is a very well made movie.
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