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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:48 pm to
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Breaking and entering into a bar, cruelty to an animal
Are you sure those are felonies? I read that those a misdemeanors.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:49 pm to
So his theory is that Teresa was murdered by the zodiac? Seems legit.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:50 pm to


He belongs in jail for the rest of his life because he stole a sandwich and some quarters, killed his cat, and supposedly did whatever his cousin claims he did (she changed her story more than once)?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:51 pm to
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So his theory is that Teresa was murdered by the zodiac? Seems legit.


It's about as plausible as anything else in this case.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:53 pm to
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You just don't understand it. Got it.




I understand it just fine, but if you're gonna throw bullshite like that at me, I'm gonna respond in kind, sorry.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:54 pm to
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It's about as plausible as anything else in this case.





No it isn't, you're embarrassing yourself
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:05 pm to
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He belongs in jail for the rest of his life because he stole a sandwich and some quarters


Quote..

"Steven Avery launched his own criminal record when he was just 18. Avery and a friend broke into a bar, trashed the place and stole two cases of beer, a tool box, $14 in quarters and two cheese sandwiches. Convicted in March 1981, he did 10 months of jail time in Manitowoc County and was ordered to pay $1,399 in restitution and spend five years on probation."

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killed his cat


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"A few months later, Avery and another man were charged with cruelty to animals after dousing Avery’s cat with gasoline and oil and tossing it into a bonfire at the Avery junkyard. Though he claimed he had nothing to do with the cat’s death, Avery was found guilty and imprisoned for nine months."

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supposedly did whatever his cousin claims he did (she changed her story more than once)?


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"Avery admitted running Morris off the road and brandishing a rifle. He was sentenced to six years in prison for endangering the safety of another person."

Pretty good article.. LINK
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:06 pm to
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I understand it just fine...


It's quite obvious that you don't.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:07 pm to
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No it isn't, you're embarrassing yourself


And you alao lack the mental capacity to read between the lines.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:14 pm to
So he deserves life imprisonment for those past crimes? You never answered.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:16 pm to
Ok buddy, clearly you're taking a difference of opinion very personally so there's no need to continue this discussion.



Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:23 pm to
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Ok buddy, clearly you're taking a difference of opinion very personally so there's no need to continue this discussion.


It's not a difference of opinion, but your perceptions don't surprise me. I understand, and I wouldn't continue either.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:32 pm to
Dude, you just basically tried to sell everyone on a theory that some dead serial killing fat frick framed Steven Avery, we have nothing left to discuss
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:32 pm to
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So he deserves life imprisonment for those past crimes? You never answered.


I'm sorry, I didn't see you ask that.

If I didn't believe that he killed the girl (which obviously I do and think he should get the needle), I would be ok with him being in jail on those gun charges. I doubt he would get life based solely on that charge. But he is a criminal with a sordid past. I know he was wrongfully in prison for a long time. But I think that actually helped his record and he would have many more crimes accomplished if he wasn't put away. Just my opinion though. Barring the murder, I think he would have gotten 3-5 years on the gun charges. That's part of why I think all of this drama over the case is unnecessary.

I don't care for how you are terming it though. It's not a punishment for his past. It is new criminal activity. He cannot own/possess a firearm. That is the law. He knows that. It's a criminal act for him to keep one. Almost every state has the same law. It's not rare and he knew he was breaking the law..
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:39 pm to
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Dude, you just basically tried to sell everyone on a theory that some dead serial killing fat frick framed Steven Avery,


I didn't try to sell anything. Like I said, you're not very perceptive.

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we have nothing left to discuss


You've had nothing to discuss since you showed up.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:43 pm to
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I didn't try to sell anything.


Oh, it must have been a different DisplacedBuckeye that posted that ridiculous nonsense, my mistake.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:47 pm to
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I'm sorry, I didn't see you ask that.


No worries.

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If I didn't believe that he killed the girl (which obviously I do and think he should get the needle), I would be ok with him being in jail on those gun charges. I doubt he would get life based solely on that charge. But he is a criminal with a sordid past. I know he was wrongfully in prison for a long time. But I think that actually helped his record and he would have many more crimes accomplished if he wasn't put away. Just my opinion though. Barring the murder, I think he would have gotten 3-5 years on the gun charges. That's part of why I think all of this drama over the case is unnecessary.


He may be guilty, and I would support the death penalty as well if that were the case, but not based on the conduct of the original trial. I wouldn't and don't support unconditional release. I do support a new trial conducted fairly and far from that county.

The "drama" is unnecessary because he would have been sentenced to 3-5 years anyways?

I also think that his felony possession conviction would be vacated with the murder conviction if that were to happen.

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I don't care for how you are terming it though. It's not a punishment for his past.


I never said it was. You brought up that he was a third time felon, etc.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41087 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:47 pm to
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That's part of why I think all of this drama over the case is unnecessary.


Because the ends justify the means?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:48 pm to
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Oh, it must have been a different DisplacedBuckeye that posted that ridiculous nonsense, my mistake.


Nope, I posted it. You just lack the mental capacity to process it.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:52 pm to
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The plot thickens.


Saw this story too. These types of weirdos always come out of the shadows when a high profile case is getting new attention.
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