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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Rou Leed
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:38 pm to
The movie blatantly misled viewers about the confession. The related little girl told the cops what Branden told her before they ever talked to him. It appeared they were leading him because he already told the girl the same story. They were trying to fit his statement with what the little girl told them Brandon said which totally makes sense. They didn't dream up the pictures or the events he told them. For whatever reason he told that same story to that little girl he was related to.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:41 pm to
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The movie blatantly misled viewers about the confession. The related little girl told the cops what Branden told her before they ever talked to him. It appeared they were leading him because he already told the girl the same story. They were trying to fit his statement with what the little girl told them Brandon said which totally makes sense. They didn't dream up the pictures or the events he told them. For whatever reason he told that same story to that little girl he was related to.


I don't know if that's right. I thought it was basically revealed that he had seen the shite on TV so he just repeated it to the girl.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:45 pm to
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For whatever reason he told that same story to that little girl he was related to.


Well his story made zero sense anyways.

No way she was raped and had her throat slit in the house.

Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:50 pm to
My understanding is girl contacted by police told on Brendan about confession. He said he read a book kiss the girls and got the ideas. No way he read a book.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 3:58 pm to
What I found most remarkable honestly was there was always a woman in Steves life somehow during everything. And Brandon had a girlfriend also. Simply remarkable. Yeah. Yeah. Oh Yeah. We are dating now. Yeah. Wow.
Posted by Brightside Bengal
New Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:08 pm to
The prosecution's story of her being assaulted in the trailer, shot in the garage, etc. had a 0% chance of happening. Zero, none, nada. The biological evidence of this would have been everywhere. No amount of bleach could have removed it entirely from that shithole.

Any reasonable jury should have been able to recognize that. The location of the biological evidence that was found was so amateurish, it's laughable. Hours of bleach cleaning in garage & trailer. Doesn't clean bloody SUV. Yeah right.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:09 pm to
On the stand she said she came forward confirming that story after hearing it on TV. Basically she wanted attention and went to them post confession, and news conference, and said "yeah he told me the same thing a few months ago".
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:13 pm to
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My understanding is girl contacted by police told on Brendan about confession.


FWIW, here's something from 2010 that goes into detail about Kayla Avery (the cousin):

LINK
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:14 pm to
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The movie blatantly misled viewers about the confession. The related little girl told the cops what Branden told her before they ever talked to him. It appeared they were leading him because he already told the girl the same story. They were trying to fit his statement with what the little girl told them Brandon said which totally makes sense. They didn't dream up the pictures or the events he told them. For whatever reason he told that same story to that little girl he was related to.


She seemed about as intelligent as the rest of the family. I'd think it entirely possible the investigators pulled the same shite with her as they did with Brendan.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:01 pm to
A better question maybe how much evidence is enough to convict someone. Car. Bullet. Blood. Burned remains. Confession. It's plenty all together and it can't all be tainted.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:02 pm to
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A better question maybe how much evidence is enough to convict someone. Car. Bullet. Blood. Burned remains. Confession. It's plenty all together and it can't all be tainted.


I don't know Ken, how much?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:09 pm to
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A better question maybe how much evidence is enough to convict someone. Car. Bullet. Blood. Burned remains. Confession. It's plenty all together and it can't all be tainted.
This is terrifying.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:10 pm to
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A better question maybe how much evidence is enough to convict someone.

How about just ONE compelling bit of evidence that was beyond the doubt of being honestly obtained?
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
1796 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:58 pm to
So I guess its more believable to you that the car, bullet, blood, bones are all planted and all confessions coerced. And they just had a bonfire to burn trash. Somebody knew they had a fire, burned victim somewhere else, transport remains undetected and place in the area. How could the conpirators possibly have known they would have a fire on the 31st? No way they could have coordinated that coincidence before or after the fact.
Posted by Rou Leed
Member since Jun 2015
1796 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 7:00 pm to
The part that is absurd is these men with jobs and families would risk everything to setup a halfwit working at a salvage yard.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 7:21 pm to
His brothers did it and framed him
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 7:26 pm to
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So I guess its more believable to you that the car, bullet, blood, bones are all planted

Why didn't you mention the key? Even the DA abandoned the key because it was obviously planted, and when one bit of evidence is planted then all of it becomes suspect. Each of those things you did mention had its own problems... the car whose license plate was the subject of Colburn's call even before it was found, the car which was carelessly "hidden" while the garage was supposedly scrupulously scrubbed, the blood which very well could have been sourced from the punctured crime lab vial, the bones which were obviously moved from a different place.
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How could the conpirators possibly have known they would have a fire on the 31st?

They didn't have to. The body was likely burned elsewhere then buried under the existing trash heap.

You see... that's what happens when one bit of evidence is planted and the investigators have a known axe to grind... you consider the alternatives.



Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 7:32 pm to
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How could the conpirators possibly have known they would have a fire on the 31st? N
The story would still work if he had a fire the next day or the day after, etc. When there is no timeline or physical evidence to limit the narrative, the narrative can adapt easily to the circumstantial evidence. Similarly the narrative can be molded away from any exculpatory evidence.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38660 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 7:32 pm to
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The part that is absurd is these men with jobs and families would risk everything to setup a halfwit working at a salvage yard.



Well that department already did it once. Successfully I might add.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 7:39 pm to
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Well that department already did it once. Successfully I might add.
And the incentives were far greater the second time around.

But clearly Lou Reed doesn't believe in coincidences, except when it relates to the Coburn and Lenk who happen to have amongst the most coincidental experiences I've ever seen.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 7:46 pm
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