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re: My American Sniper thoughts.

Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:41 am to
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Apart from the Ventura thing, which was accurate read the case files, what other inaccuracies are proven from it?


Sniping from superdome, murdering carjackers at gas station
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:44 am to
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Sniping from superdome, murdering carjackers at gas station


Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48958 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

quote:

Apart from the Ventura thing, which was accurate read the case files, what other inaccuracies are proven from it?



Sniping from superdome, murdering carjackers at gas station

so what you're saying is that you didn't read the book.. Got it
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99629 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:55 am to
CarsonRandomNumbers,

You alright bro? Your posts have seemed a bit more irritable/angry lately. Hope all is well.

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
151097 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:07 am to
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I enjoyed the movie, but I keep seeing this statement and it is funny to me. It's a theater....its going to be silent. Not to mention the ending leaves no reason for applause.

This. I guess it was "powerful" in some ways, but the main reason it was silent is because the credits were silent. 99.9% of movies have music or some sort of sound going on during the credits, and as many times as I've gone to a theater, I've never left feeling like it was particularly "noisy" after the movie was over.

I liked the movie, but was pretty underwhelmed by it...mainly I think based on the amount of praise I've seen it getting (both on here and just in general). It was good, and I'd recommend it to someone, but that's about it. It was a little weird at times, and the editing wasn't too great IMO, but Cooper and Miller were solid and all in all I think Eastwood delivered a solid tribute to Chris Kyle (which is basically what it was since it was sort of a conglomoration of things as opposed to a true story).


And I'm not trying to shite on the film at all, because I did enjoy it. However, when I think of something that I'd call "moving" or "powerful," I go to something like United 93. That's an experience I'll never forget in the theater. That one was silent and just left you with a simultaneous feeling of being proud and also getting punched in the gut. It was a pretty sombering experience.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5401 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:14 am to
I felt the movie lacked drama and that the logistics of the moment was the only thing moving the movie forward. I don't remember but did the movie have a score? It sure could've used one.

I never felt that Chris was in any danger and he was just going through the motions of his job. And the only time the Cooper really gave the character any believable emotion and chemistry were those few seconds with his brother on the airstrip. The confusion and sympathy seemed real.

Overall I was pretty disappointed. But somehow Eastwood still made me feel like a proud American at the end with the real life footage.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68525 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:19 am to
for me personally the more powerful scenes were from his home life more so than the war scenes. i think the film did a good job of showing moments where he was not fully there mentally. i am sure he had many more moments in real life, but i do not think the american public would be ready to see a movie that shows veterans with severe ptsd or other mental health issues.

i never heard of a sniper going with a squad or team door to door while the rest of the platoon does the same thing. im not saying that isn't true but its something out of the ordinary. if he really did that then he was going above and beyond his job. of course I am just a pog so maybe thats why i never heard of a sniper doing that.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:22 am to
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i never heard of a sniper going with a squad or team door to door while the rest of the platoon does the same thing. im not saying that isn't true but its something out of the ordinary. if he really did that then he was going above and beyond his job. of course I am just a pog so maybe thats why i never heard of a sniper doing that.

The portrayal of Marines during the initial invasion of Iraq was laughable. I'm curious why people aren't talking about that enough.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68525 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:24 am to
yeah and with the grunts on the ground i think one of them could have killed that kid and woman on spot. they werent that far away.

i still think it was a really good movie. that and i want to piss off michael moore and seth rogen
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:30 am to
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i still think it was a really good movie. that and i want to piss off michael moore and seth rogen

I can see why people would be angry about Michael Moore's comments on the film. He a dick and will always be a dick.

On the other hand, Seth Rogan's comments were harmless & I don't think the two statements should be grouped together.

I'm pretty critical of this film because I've noticed how many people want to pump this up as something that it isn't.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:32 am to
Seth's comments were pretty accurate, IMO. I definitely felt some propaganda slant to the film.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68525 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:34 am to
i think he may have been a little bitter that the interview got removed from theatres. which i still think its weird, and i wanted to watch it too.

all in all i like seth, but he never wanted to share the mary j with me.

and no i never smoked weed just though that would be funny to post
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 11:35 am
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15333 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:35 am to
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I'm pretty critical of this film because I've noticed how many people want to pump this up as something that it isn't.


Yep, and this pumping is coming from both sides.

Its a decent movie being turned into either terrible or absolutely fantastic because of people's personal beliefs.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Seth's comments were pretty accurate, IMO. I definitely felt some propaganda slant to the film.

I noticed that as well.

I've also realized [via Social Media] that many of my friends still want to find a way to validate the invasion of Iraq. This film fuels that kind of mindset with an American Hero.

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
151097 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Seth's comments were pretty accurate, IMO. I definitely felt some propaganda slant to the film.

I'm not sure what Rogen said about the film (I know he said some things, I just never heard what they were), but I agree with your bolded statement above though...it definitely had that feel to it at times.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99629 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:37 pm to
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when I think of something that I'd call "moving" or "powerful," I go to something like United 93. That's an experience I'll never forget in the theater. That one was silent and just left you with a simultaneous feeling of being proud and also getting punched in the gut. It was a pretty sombering experience.


At the end of United 93, some random guy sitting near me turned to me and asked, "Did that really happen?" It was if he was completely unaware of 9/11 and had been living in a cave somewhere. Or perhaps he had just come of a long coma.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99629 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty critical of this film because I've noticed how many people want to pump this up as something that it isn't.


Depends which reaction you saw first from others. The first few threads on here about the movie were picking it apart and criticizing it heavily, so that has led me to defend it. Is it the best movie ever, no, but I don't think it deserved the harsh criticism I initially saw others give it.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66519 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:45 pm to
i guess I'm saying that I wasn't following posts closely enough

I didn't realize it was book only
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8880 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:48 pm to
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They should have either made a more real biographical movie or just used his story as a template for a fictional account.


I agree with this. I haven't seen it, but after hearing about other untruthful events and the fact that he bragged about everything he did in a book, it has really kept me from not wanting to see it.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10516 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:48 pm to
I don't understand the critical reviews of this movie. Some people seem angry, bitter and a little annoyed by the success it has had. It was a solid movie with a good cast. Some people seem miserable and couldn't enjoy a blowjob if it wasn't directed just right. It's a movie. It doesn't have to be 100% factual. You take a story and adapt it to what audiences may want to see. I don't see the point in reading a book and seeing a movie to debate the differences. I told my wife that some of the things the guy said were bullshite but it didn't make me dislike the movie any.
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