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re: Movies/TV/Actors that you initially dismissed, but now have a different take...

Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Was that really a thing before Training Day?


Not really.

Denzel has played a fairly wide range of characters and was fantastic even in early roles such as A Soldier's Story (and he also shined in the stage version, A Soldier's Play, sharing an Obie). Yes, his first truly noticeable work was in race-themed films - A Soldier's Story (but there are lots of twists in that one), Cry Freedom, Glory and Malcom X.

He's the best black leading man, and possesses character actor skills, in cinema history, IMHO, and one of the best, regardless of demographic novelty.

Comparable to Hanks, probably (although without as much hardware). Hanks was better (particularly younger) at traditional comedy and on the lighter side of the spectrum, but Denzel better at darker (pardon the pun) and more antagonistic roles, despite an effusive likeability.

What do I mean by this? It's easier for an unlikeable guy, take Bale for example, to play an unlikeable character than it is for Hanks or Denzel (or Jack Lemmon, Jimmy Stewart, for that matter).

Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29163 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Now he just wails, yells, screams, and cries. He’s a poor man’s William Shatner and is clearly the most overrated actor in Hollywood.


This is one absolutely incorrect statement.

Whoever said Rob Pattinson and Bradley Cooper, those were terrific answers.

I'll add in Chris Hemsworth. Dude to me is more than just Thor. He's a terrific actor.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29163 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:15 pm to
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I had dismissed Shia LaBeouf as another kid star turned shitty actor, but the dude completely won me over in Fury. The guy can act his arse off if he has the right role and puts his mind to it.


His stuff recently is making me change my mind. Another good one.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4395 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Comparable to Hanks, probably (although without as much hardware)

Who are you saying has less hardware? Denzel has been nominated for 9 Oscars and won 2 of them.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:29 pm to
Jonah Hill. Could have easily fallen into the physical fatty humor and never grown out of it. I thought that’s be his niche.

But he’s killed it in dramatic roles.

Maniac.
Money Ball.
Wolf of Wall street
War Dogs

Also didn’t think anything of Channing Tatum going into Jumpstreet but he’s ended up being a hilarious physical action comedy star.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
6689 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:34 pm to
Woody Harrelson....never would've guessed the dumb bartender on Cheers would become the actor he has.
Posted by UnSmitty_Bop
Member since Dec 2020
191 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:34 pm to
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Ray McKinnon

Hollywood’s most talented character actor.


Also created "Rectify", love that show.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89613 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Who are you saying has less hardware? Denzel has been nominated for 9 Oscars and won 2 of them.





Now that I look at it, they're fairly close for major film wins - Hanks' 8 to Denzel's 6 (and Denzel also has a Tony).

Hanks has 2 Oscar wins (5 noms), 4 competitive GG wins (and a Cecil B. Demille), back to back SAG wins to pair with his Oscar wins. He has 5 BAFTA nominations with no wins.

Outside of Denzel's 2 of 9 at Oscar, he has 3 GGs, and 1 SAG. Notably, no BAFTA nominations.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80427 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Kaley Cuoco

Aside from that smokin' hot bod from the 8 Simple Rules and early TBBT years, I thought she was a lightweight who might just disappear after TBBT ended. She made some completely forgettable movies during the TBBT years. I watched one or two of them and those are what made me wonder if she had any future after TBBT. But she hit a home run with The Flight Attendant, in which she was a familiar character but was able to show off much more of her range. She created and produced this project herself. I wonder if indeed her career might have tanked if she hadn't made this move.


You completely left out her voice acting chops in Harley Quinn.
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4796 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Zac Efron. Thought he was just a modern David Cassidy, but he has range.

He's been hilarious in several of his flicks, was genuinely entertaining in Greatest Showman and was excellent as Bundy.

Completely agree here... he didn’t get enough recognition for how good he was as Bundy imo. I’d love to see him start getting Leo/Pitt type roles
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4796 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:14 pm to
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I had dismissed Shia LaBeouf as another kid star turned shitty actor, but the dude completely won me over in Fury. The guy can act his arse off if he has the right role and puts his mind to it.

Another great example.... Peanut Butter Falcon is a truly great movie
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4796 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Jonah Hill. Could have easily fallen into the physical fatty humor and never grown out of it. I thought that’s be his niche.

But he’s killed it in dramatic roles.

Maniac.
Money Ball.
Wolf of Wall street
War Dogs

Also didn’t think anything of Channing Tatum going into Jumpstreet but he’s ended up being a hilarious physical action comedy star


I was fairly shocked how good Tatum was in White House Down
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35559 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:20 pm to
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Movies/TV/Actors that you initially dismissed, but now have a different take...
Parks and Rec.

The first time I watched it (many years ago) I thought it was a cheap knock-off of The Office and turned it off. Then, a few months later, I gave it another shot and totally fell in love with it. Now I consider it one of my all-time favorite TV shows.
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4796 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:20 pm to
I’ll go a bit different route... I thought the concept of Sons of Anarchy was really dumb, used to make fun of my roommate for watching.... ended up watching a few eps w him, and the next thing I know I think I’ve watched the whole series like 6-7 times
Posted by Woolfman_8
Old Metairie
Member since Oct 2018
2072 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 2:31 pm to
Walton Goggins, saw him originally in Major League back to the minors. Didn’t think much of him then. I think he has one of the biggest ranges in Hollywood.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89613 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Walton Goggins, saw him originally in Major League back to the minors. Didn’t think much of him then. I think he has one of the biggest ranges in Hollywood.



Dude - you never watched The Shield?
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48856 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 2:43 pm to
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the Nice Guys

Criminally under-promoted film.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Walton Goggins, saw him originally in Major League back to the minors. Didn’t think much of him then. I think he has one of the biggest ranges in Hollywood.


Was also in Shanghai Knights. shite he’s been around awhile.
Posted by EuphoricSSP
Member since Feb 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 3:12 pm to
Michael Pitt, remembered seeing him in Finding Forrester as the friend of the main character. Didn't think anything of it. Good fricking actor.

Similar feelings on Timothy Olyphant
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16467 posts
Posted on 5/21/21 at 3:17 pm to
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What movie?

shite, not sure how I missed that. Phoenix in Gladiator.. edited my post
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