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Movie Realization upon rewatch.... Casino is a comedy
Posted on 7/19/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 7/19/20 at 7:16 pm
At least the first 3/4 before the entire world falls apart and it turns into the Sharon Stone shite show.
I recently saw the film for the first time years and years and I found myself laughing aloud at multiple scenes.
Everything with Joe Bob Briggs and Rickles is funny. Most of the stuff with Pesci is funny. Even the final scene of DeNiro's glasses is funny.
All in all, it's more comedy than drama. That can also be said for Sopranos in many parts.
I recently saw the film for the first time years and years and I found myself laughing aloud at multiple scenes.
Everything with Joe Bob Briggs and Rickles is funny. Most of the stuff with Pesci is funny. Even the final scene of DeNiro's glasses is funny.
All in all, it's more comedy than drama. That can also be said for Sopranos in many parts.
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 7:17 pm
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 7:17 pm to Jack Ruby
The culture clash between the local rednecks and the Chicago wiseguys was intended for a little relief before the world burns down, I figured.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 7:52 pm to Jack Ruby
I’ve always thought that Casino would be a really good 2 hr movie without any Sharon Stone at all.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 7:59 pm to alajones
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I’ve always thought that Casino would be a really good 2 hr movie without any Sharon Stone at all.
Yeah, she almost makes the movie just about a cuck.
Move on man. You run a Casino. You can get hotter tail than Stone.
She's stealing money from you to give to her loser ex-boyfriend.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 8:17 pm to alajones
It's based off of Lefty Rosenthal's book, if I remember correctly. But the Sharon Stone angle in the movie was definitely over the top and in the book the real woman (Sharon Stone's character) wasn't focused on nearly as much. Probably just needed a female angle to reach wider audiences. I guess Scorsese wanted to give the film...."a hot dose."
Posted on 7/19/20 at 8:39 pm to BorrisMart
Sharon stone takes over the lastter part of the movie in a terrible way.
By focusing so muchbon her, they also skim over the larger mafia pullout of Vegas.
The first 1.5 hours is a great movie. The rest is juts downhill.
Thats why Goodfellas is so good. You have a 3 hour movie that never slows and lags. It's a pretty incredible feat. You also see how great Ray Liotta was and how he held that movie together.
By focusing so muchbon her, they also skim over the larger mafia pullout of Vegas.
The first 1.5 hours is a great movie. The rest is juts downhill.
Thats why Goodfellas is so good. You have a 3 hour movie that never slows and lags. It's a pretty incredible feat. You also see how great Ray Liotta was and how he held that movie together.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 9:15 pm to BorrisMart
Lefty is suppose to be a rational man...very calculating running a casino. But when it came to Ginger he was gambling with the worst odds. Amazing how a man can throw everything he knows out the window when a woman gets into the picture.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 9:31 pm to PeteRose
The biggest critique of the movie from people in the know is that in real life Lefty wasn’t nearly as smart as DeNiro played Ace.
He was the guy that bribed the right athletes to shave points and had refs in his pocket, not some 160 IQ card counting expert.
I love the movie though.
He was the guy that bribed the right athletes to shave points and had refs in his pocket, not some 160 IQ card counting expert.
I love the movie though.
Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:22 pm to Jack Ruby
Remo Gaggi is pure comedy. His reaction to Sams outburst at the hearing is gold.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 5:56 am to Keys Open Doors
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There's an Old Chicago mafia guy named Frank Cullotta on YouTube who just tells old stories about Vegas and the life. He was apprently good friends and in the same outfit with the real Joe Pesci character. I think he may have been the Frank Vincent character.
He said he never liked Lefty. Said he was an arrogant prick Jew who who had zero personality and rubbed people the wrong way. Said he was the best handicapper there was, though. Said he learned from his father who was even better than him. Also said Lefty was a government informant.
He also talked about the Sharon Stone character. Said Tony Spilatro (Pesci's character) was really banging Lefty's wife and that the James Woods character was not her lover but her drug dealer and drug connection and they never roughed him up. She was apparently a "show broad" and essentially a great hustler of high rollers.
There's an Old Chicago mafia guy named Frank Cullotta on YouTube who just tells old stories about Vegas and the life. He was apprently good friends and in the same outfit with the real Joe Pesci character. I think he may have been the Frank Vincent character.
He said he never liked Lefty. Said he was an arrogant prick Jew who who had zero personality and rubbed people the wrong way. Said he was the best handicapper there was, though. Said he learned from his father who was even better than him. Also said Lefty was a government informant.
He also talked about the Sharon Stone character. Said Tony Spilatro (Pesci's character) was really banging Lefty's wife and that the James Woods character was not her lover but her drug dealer and drug connection and they never roughed him up. She was apparently a "show broad" and essentially a great hustler of high rollers.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 6:24 am to Jack Ruby
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Everything with Joe Bob Briggs and Rickles is funny.
Alan King was a comic, too. Pesci is extraordinarily funny and Frank Vincent could be very funny, too. L.Q. Jones was a funny guy. Richard Riehle, Dick Smothers and Kevin Pollack's characters didn't have much room for comedy, but the film was absolutely stuffed to the rafters with comic talent.
Even in the relatively serious scene where Stone and Woods are talking about kidnapping the kid, the kid and Woods had great comic chemistry in just a few moments together.
The scene in the grocery store in Kansas City where Marty's mom is simultaneously fussing at the mobster for cursing while also stealing a little bit of the money for herself from the till is also funny in its own way.
The movie is at least 2/3 comedy and 1/3 mob film.
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 6:27 am to Jack Ruby
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There's an Old Chicago mafia guy named Frank Cullotta
Frank Vincent did play a version of Cullotta in the film. Cullotta turned rat when he found out Anthony (Nicky?) agreed to a hit on Cullotta.
Cullotta was a consultant for Casino and played one of the hitmen for most hits in the film - some of which he may have participated in IRL.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:50 am to Jack Ruby
Yeh Frank Cullotta was in the movie. He was an informant, which is where basically all of the mob stories that are now common place today come from. It would be very interesting to know the real stories because who knows what the informants hold back on or make up to make themselves look a certain way. His stories are still interesting nonetheless though. Not to mention the FBI has allegedly allowed all kinds of crazy shite (murders, drugs, intimidation, etc.) to be done by informants while they were being protected by the FBI, that would be a great subject for a documentary film itself.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:29 pm to Jack Ruby
It boggles my mind that anyone prefers Casino to Goodfellas.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:35 pm to Speedy G
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It boggles my mind that anyone prefers Casino to Goodfellas.
I like both but you're right, Goodfellas takes the cake.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 6:24 pm to Speedy G
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It boggles my mind that anyone prefers Casino to Goodfellas.
They're both great movies. Based almost solely on Pesci's performance in Goodfellas (and a little tighter, more efficient version of Marty in the earlier film), Goodfellas is, objectively, the superior film.
However, I don't get cats who LOVED Goodfellas and piss on Casino for, mainly, Stone. She was fantastic in this. If you don't like the character, that's okay. It was supposed to be an unlikable character. James Woods' character is unlikable as well, but folks don't shite on his performance.
Stone was mesmerizing. The crew and extras gave her a standing ovation after the front lawn rant scene and rightfully so.
Casino was as good, top to bottom, as any Marty film not named "Goodfellas" and probably better than those others. There, I said it.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 7:20 pm to Ace Midnight
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Casino was as good, top to bottom, as any Marty film not named "Goodfellas" and probably better than those others. There, I said it.
Dude...not to shite on your opinion, and I like Casino and all, but it's not in the same stratosphere as Taxi Driver or Raging Bull. Hell, It's not even as good as Color of Money.
It can be strongly argued that Scorsese made the best film in the 1970s,1980s, and 1990s. Not my opinion, but the case can be made... And Casino is not in those discussions.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:21 pm to Ace Midnight
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Stone was mesmerizing. The crew and extras gave her a standing ovation after the front lawn rant scene and rightfully so.
I believe she was nominated for an Academy Award.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 8:26 pm to Ace Midnight
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She was fantastic in this. If you don't like the character, that's okay. It was supposed to be an unlikable character. James Woods' character is unlikable as well, but folks don't shite on his performance.
This and...
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Casino was as good, top to bottom, as any Marty film not named "Goodfellas" and probably better than those others. There, I said it.
This.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 2:43 am to Ace Midnight
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However, I don't get cats who LOVED Goodfellas and piss on Casino for, mainly, Stone. She was fantastic in this. If you don't like the character, that's okay. It was supposed to be an unlikable character. James Woods' character is unlikable as well, but folks don't shite on his performance.
Nobody is saying she wasn't good. If people hate you, you're probably good.
But it was a miscalculation. She derails the film. Maybe she's so good, you then just start focusing on how much you hate her and the mob movie becomes War of the Roses.
I want to see a mob movie. Not fricking marital dysfunction and the protagonist becoming a ballless wonder.
That scene where Ray's wife puts a gun to his face in Goodfellas and he sets her straight....well Casino became a gun to the face of DeNiro by Stone for the entire 2nd half of the movie. It's not enjoyable.
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