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re: Mission Impossible - The Final Reckoning Discussion Thread…. “One last Time” — Spoilers
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:06 pm to meeple
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:06 pm to meeple
My wife gets aggravated with me because when we talk about the movie in front of friends and stuff I refer to the Entity as ChatGPT. Ethan had to kill ChatGPT.
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:11 pm to BigJim
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The acting was mostly fine, good even. But the writing…damn.
I agree with you. The writing was weak. And with Tom, one thing you can count on is good acting. He's pretty serious about his craft. I much rather his other movies like, American Made, Edge of Tomorrow, Jack Reacher, The Firm, A Few Good Men, and many many more.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:17 pm to 3nOut
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I thought he was menacing in the first one and first part of this but his appearance in the second half was phoned in with goofy lines and unnecessary maniacal laughing.
A weak villain was the weakness of these last two movies. Apparently Nicholas Hoult was supposed to be Gabriel but there was a scheduling issue or something and we ended up with Esai Morales, who is a bland TV actor at best. If Gabriel was played by an interesting badass actor like Sean Harris, Henry Cavill, or Philip Seymour Hoffman then "the Entity" could've been more of a weapon than a somewhat silly sci-fi villain.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:54 pm to GumboPot
just saw it, i thought it was as good as could have reasonably been expected. the scene on the submarine being 30 minutes long and having no dialogue was pretty incredible for a movie like this. I really really really hate that he said “torpedo tube” like 2/3rds of the way through it.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:10 pm to meeple
Enjoyed it. Similar to the last one, there were some scenes that could have been shorter. A few ridiculous things. I get it but I just wish there was less of it. Overall I had a good time seeing it in the theater.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:28 pm to SiriusBraveFan
it had a hunt for red october vibe that was really working for it and the scenes with the president after watch left were touching on like a serious dr strangelove vibe that i could have gotten behind though that was underdeveloped imo.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 5:33 pm to meeple
You're never gonna beat 4-6, but this was a solid movie. Yes, there were conveniences, but if I wanted realism I wouldn't watch these movies.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:27 pm to udtiger
Enjoyed it as well and went through a re watch of all of them over the last couple weeks. Fallout is without a doubt the best MI movie. This one was probably 4th best. Gabriel was a terrible villain 
PSH is the best villain from the series and I was just thinking about how much he would’ve crushed in Gabriel’s role. And yeah holy shite that sub scene was so intense. The whole lead up to that too was awesome with the fighter jets etc.
PSH is the best villain from the series and I was just thinking about how much he would’ve crushed in Gabriel’s role. And yeah holy shite that sub scene was so intense. The whole lead up to that too was awesome with the fighter jets etc. This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:34 pm to dcw7g
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A weak villain was the weakness of these last two movies. Apparently Nicholas Hoult was supposed to be Gabriel but there was a scheduling issue or something and we ended up with Esai Morales, who is a bland TV actor at best. If Gabriel was played by an interesting badass actor like Sean Harris, Henry Cavill, or Philip Seymour Hoffman then "the Entity" could've been more of a weapon than a somewhat silly sci-fi villain.
Gabriel worked pretty well in Dead Reckoning as well as his first scene in Final Reckoning. Dude had real menace and Morales carried a quiet, calculating intensity that made him feel dangerous without going over the top. The issues definitely started creeping in during the climax, where things leaned too far into melodrama though that felt more like a misstep in direction or writing than an acting failure. I mean, his character really served no purpose in FR and the entire backstory beef with Ethan was discarded.
I don’t think Morales was bad (outside of the Pennywise performance in the third act) and he had potential to be a classic villain in this one but for whatever reason, they decided to essentially shelf that entire character. His only purpose in FR was to give Ethan a final boss fight.
I don't know how Hoult could have portrayed the character when he would have been like four years old at the time Gabriel killed Ethan's mystery woman unless they had another angle in mind.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:10 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
Atwell was allowed to be hotter in the 1st one. I think Pom won this one with her opening prison scene pokies
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:14 pm to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Atwell was allowed to be hotter in the 1st one. I think Pom won this one with her opening prison scene pokies
Atwell was pure smoke in this one. The CPR scene was Oscar worthy
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:25 pm to udtiger
Damn, I went to the bathroom for that part.
I unfortunately have a lot of complaints.
The stunts and impossible tasks are too crazy to create real tension. The suspension of disbelief is “Fast and Furious” levels and it took me out of it.
I’m still not sure why they had to “gain control” with Luther’s thumb drive (which magically fit a top secret device) other than to build tension for a green light in the vault?
I thought the Offerman mis-direction was great.
I unfortunately have a lot of complaints.
The stunts and impossible tasks are too crazy to create real tension. The suspension of disbelief is “Fast and Furious” levels and it took me out of it.
I’m still not sure why they had to “gain control” with Luther’s thumb drive (which magically fit a top secret device) other than to build tension for a green light in the vault?
I thought the Offerman mis-direction was great.
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:21 am to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
quote:yeah as unbelievable and impossible as some of the movies have been, the sub scene escape has to take the cake for most unbelievable. I’m not sure how many Avengers even survive that.
The stunts and impossible tasks are too crazy prevent real tension. The suspension of disbelief is “Fast and Furious” levels and it took me out of it.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 7:02 pm to UnluckyTiger
I can suspend disbelief. I was entertained. I appreciated the work that went into it.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:26 pm to RohanGonzales
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I can suspend disbelief. I was entertained. I appreciated the work that went into it.
Same. Saw it last night with my teenage son. Good action flick.
No way anyone lives through the sub scene but I thoroughly enjoyed it!
I really thought he (Tom Cruise) was gonna be dead at the end similar to last Bond movie.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 4:29 pm to meeple
Just saw this today, I enjoyed it. It is a good movie, definitely not the best of the series. I enjoyed the call backs and flash blacks to characters from the prior movies and finding out more on their back stories.
Haley Atwell is an absolute smoke show.
ETA: They did leave the ending open where they could do another movie.
Haley Atwell is an absolute smoke show.
ETA: They did leave the ending open where they could do another movie.
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:27 pm to meeple
Saw it today and agree with most comments, especially the placement of women in roles of prominence.
My biggest complaint is the sub scene. I wish they would have shortened that and made a rescue from under the ice scene. Ethan goes unconscious and the next thing you know he’s waking up to Grace in a (now) 2 person hyperbaric chamber. Well, that’s a jump but what isn’t in this genre. All fun.
It didn’t seem like it was almost 3 hrs long.
Also, the William Donloe character (Rolf Saxon) sounds a lot like Leonard Nimoy.
My biggest complaint is the sub scene. I wish they would have shortened that and made a rescue from under the ice scene. Ethan goes unconscious and the next thing you know he’s waking up to Grace in a (now) 2 person hyperbaric chamber. Well, that’s a jump but what isn’t in this genre. All fun.
It didn’t seem like it was almost 3 hrs long.
Also, the William Donloe character (Rolf Saxon) sounds a lot like Leonard Nimoy.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:12 am to Outback Ray
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If both movies were edited down properly into one 3 plus hour film, the one film would have been the best of the series. But eh, money.
At the cost of production, the studio would lose money if condensed to a single film.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:10 am to ATrillionaire
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If both movies were edited down properly into one 3 plus hour film, the one film would have been the best of the series. But eh, money.
I am not sure 3 hours would have been enough time for both movies. That is why we got very brief looks into the future, i.e. the brief scene of cutting through the ice to rescue Ethan.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:29 am to HeyCap
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My biggest complaint is the sub scene. I wish they would have shortened that and made a rescue from under the ice scene.
This!
I kept thinking, alright already. And of course the sub is going to start rolling, and of course the door is going to be blocked, and of course the torpedo tube is going to be blocked, and of course your survival gear will be ripped off of you body as it is dragging you down...exhausting.
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