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re: Marvel’s MCU Rigidity Is Letting DC’s Diverse Universe Have The Upper Hand
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:01 am to Upperdecker
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:01 am to Upperdecker
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MCU masterpiece
This board
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:39 am to RLDSC FAN
The DCEU, ladies and gentlemen. And yeah, birds of prey will be the start of marvel’s decline..........
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:42 am to RLDSC FAN
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Marvel’s MCU Rigidity Is Letting DC’s Diverse Universe Have The Upper Hand
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:46 am to jlovel7
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Batman is great as we saw with the first 2 films in the dark knight trilogy.
fify
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:51 am to RLDSC FAN
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The MCU is serious bidness around here
Says the guy who can't go a month without some weird thread defending the awful DCEU.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:56 am to ZappBrannigan
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Shazam was fun, so was Aquaman, they were good comic book movies.
Aquaman was not a good movie. The dialogue was atrocious. The leading lady made Captain Marvel seem like an Oscar-worthy performance. I can't believe she didn't get some Razzie mentions. One issue with the DCEU is that the writers seem to understand the nuance of human interaction like an autistic 9 year old. Wonder Woman was by far the best movie and the whole flirting on the boat was just bad.
The Joker is far and away the best DC movie since The Dark Knight, and it seems like they were treating it like a throw-away flick for some reason.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:07 am to RollTide1987
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but the MCU hasn't come close to matching DC's highs as of yet.
Okay, take out the Nolan movies that are not related at all to the DCEU and name the DC highs.
The only movie that stands out is the Joker. Winter Soldier was way better than Wonder Woman. Ragnarok and Guardians f the Galaxy were way better than Shazam. I can name half a dozen other MCU movies that were better than Aquaman.
The only way you could make the above statement is through blind fanboyism.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:09 am to Jester
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Okay, take out the Nolan movies that are not related at all to the DCEU and name the DC highs.
No, you don't get to do that because the same studio produced the Nolan-helmed movies. Those three movies and the new Joker film blow anything the MCU has done right out of the water.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:11 am to Jester
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Jester
Everything you said, yes. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills when I say aquaman and Shazam were VERY decent if not bad movies and people are calling me stupid. Well, relative to suicide squad and Batman v Superman, sure, aquaman is a damn good movie.
Like I said before, DCUE’s best is middle of the pack/lower tier compared to the MCU.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:16 am to floyd of pink
Dc movies have more flavor, the mcu is so formulaic
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:20 am to Jester
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Says the guy who can't go a month without some weird thread defending the awful DCEU.
Yeah, coming from a guy that enjoys both DC and Marvel that's also relatively new to the board, I haven't seen anyone act like more of a fanboy than RLDSC.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:34 am to Boo Krewe
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Dc movies have more flavor, the mcu is so formulaic
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:38 am to RollTide1987
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No, you don't get to do that because the same studio produced the Nolan-helmed movies.
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Those three movies and the new Joker film blow anything the MCU has done right out of the water.
Congrats on having an opinion. Unfortunately, including The Dark Knight Rises makes it a demonstrably stupid opinion.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:47 am to RollTide1987
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DC's lows have been lower than the MCU's lows, but the MCU hasn't come close to matching DC's highs as of yet.
I think this is pretty fair, with the one exception being some of the arcs that developed over multiple films in the Infinity War saga. There's simply no performance in the MCU that can be compared to Ledger or Phoenix, and DC probably has three movies that I could easily see being ranked above Marvel's best on a stand alone basis.
Sometimes I think I give Marvel too much credit for what they accomplished in terms of connecting the dots and bringing all of the story lines together so seamlessly the way they did in Infinity War. Prior to Infinity War, GOTG was probably the only Marvel movie that truly blew me away. I think Infinity War then retrospectively boosted my opinion of many of the movies preceding it. And so while I can't tie them to a single movie in the way I can with Ledger's Joker, Thor and Nebula's arcs over a number of movies were still more compelling to me than anything I've found in DC up to this point.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:47 am to RollTide1987
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DC's lows have been lower than the MCU's lows, but the MCU hasn't come close to matching DC's highs as of yet.
The biggest movie of all time and the most satisfying and well put together compilation of films, not to mention straight largest universe created in 11 years, "hasn't come close" to what DC has done in film?
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No, you don't get to do that because the same studio produced the Nolan-helmed movies. Those three movies and the new Joker film blow anything the MCU has done right out of the water.
Don't be obtuse, you know this is about the DCEU. And you know Nolan's films aren't in there.
And your bias that they "blow them out of the water" again, ridiculous. More than half a dozen MCU films were better reviewed and 6 films made more money straight up. The Joker has Oscar noms, that's about it. It's a fairly simple film around one of the best actors of the generation. Good, not great. Please point to the "blowing out of the water" evidence.
The Joker was good. BB and TDK were pretty great, but the difference you see....yeah that's just not true.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:03 am to Freauxzen
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The biggest movie of all time and the most satisfying and well put together compilation of films, not to mention straight largest universe created in 11 years
Yeah, see this is where I think Marvel truly shines. Game of Thrones went from being one of the best shows of all time to a total disappointment in the final season because of their inability to manage the scope of their story. Marvel delivered satisfying conclusions to the arcs of most of their characters.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:27 am to RollTide1987
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DC's lows have been lower than the MCU's lows, but the MCU hasn't come close to matching DC's highs as of yet.
The MCU, the WB/DCEU, and Fox have each knocked it out of the park on occasion.
The MCU's strong point is that their guidelines keep their lows from being too low while keeping their highs more frequent, popular, and profitable.
Warner's strong point is that they learned from their mistakes and went back to giving creators the freedom to shoot for the moon. That opens them up to future flops, but it also allows for movies like Joker and series like the Dark Knight. It also means that at times they'll be hitting segmented audiences instead of the general public.
Fox was all over the place, but they rolled the dice on Deadpool and Logan, giving us amazing films. The X-Men films had their highs as well.
None of these studios are 100% gold and none of them are 100% shite. If you didn't find something to enjoy from each of these programs you're either kidding yourself or refuse to get out of your lane and enjoy movies.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:33 am to Fewer Kilometers
Yeah, this pretty much sums it up right here.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:47 am to RollTide1987
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DC's lows have been lower than the MCU's lows, but the MCU hasn't come close to matching DC's highs as of yet.
Like what? What has DC produced that holds up to Marvel’s best movies? I’m waiting
Posted on 1/30/20 at 9:48 am to Jester
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Says the guy who can't go a month without some weird thread defending the awful DCEU.
Link?
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