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re: Marvel’s MCU Rigidity Is Letting DC’s Diverse Universe Have The Upper Hand
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:44 pm to Josh Allen
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:44 pm to Josh Allen
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Josh Allen
That's a pretty sweet avatar you've got there.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:50 pm to abellsujr
I don't know how much of a game changer it is.
It made a lot of money. And it's gotten accolades. But what path forward does it carve?
A Joker 2 won't have the theaters will be gunned media hype.
Nolan taped the mature Batman movie well already.
And WB is still rebuilding their plans after Snyder. BOP will be a good litmus test. Ewan and Robbie should carry it no problem, and finally bringing him out to give the whole Guy Ritchie spin to the movie might pull people back in. Between it and WW 84 we should see the real path forward WB is taking.
It made a lot of money. And it's gotten accolades. But what path forward does it carve?
A Joker 2 won't have the theaters will be gunned media hype.
Nolan taped the mature Batman movie well already.
And WB is still rebuilding their plans after Snyder. BOP will be a good litmus test. Ewan and Robbie should carry it no problem, and finally bringing him out to give the whole Guy Ritchie spin to the movie might pull people back in. Between it and WW 84 we should see the real path forward WB is taking.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:53 pm to ZappBrannigan
Let’s be real the plot of Inception 2 is gonna be Warner Brothers breaking up the Disney Corp. not 2 energy companies.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:58 pm to ZappBrannigan
quote:Going forward with great divergent takes on established characters.
It made a lot of money. And it's gotten accolades. But what path forward does it carve?
Greenlighting small budget superhero films.
Studio standing behind the Producer and Director when the world tells them to cave to social justice demands.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:04 pm to Fewer Kilometers
WB execs allow a Holy Terror movie.
Theaters world wide get ackbarred and WWIII starts over the Goddamned Batman.
Eta 1
shite not Holy Terror, that's the Puritan one.
The Frank Miller script that even DC was like "Really?"
ETA 2
It was also titled Holy Terror.
Goddamn Frank
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:41 pm to Jay Are
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Is this some attempt to be clever? I watch everything. It's why I know more than you
Who needs a girlfriend when I have the criterion collection to keep me company!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:28 pm to ZappBrannigan
quote:I mean, what more do you need for it to be a game changer lol?
I don't know how much of a game changer it is. It made a lot of money. And it's gotten accolades
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:34 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:probably not good
I wonder how they'll do if Feige jumps ship to Star Wars.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:41 pm to abellsujr
Like it or not, the gig is probably up for the MCU. The two faces of that franchise, Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans, are both gone and there isn't an actor/actress - save perhaps Chris Hemsworth - who can even come close to filling the shoes left by the both of them.
The MCU should have bowed out after Endgame. Now we will all have to watch their slow decline and then start threads recalling the good ole days.
As far as the DCEU is concerned, until they actually start to construct a coherent universe worth anyone's time, I couldn't care less. I'll be happy as a pig just watching one-offs like Joker.
The MCU should have bowed out after Endgame. Now we will all have to watch their slow decline and then start threads recalling the good ole days.
As far as the DCEU is concerned, until they actually start to construct a coherent universe worth anyone's time, I couldn't care less. I'll be happy as a pig just watching one-offs like Joker.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:52 pm to RollTide1987
Actually I think ending the Infinity Saga gives them more freedom moving forward in storytelling.
Dr. Strange 2 bringing the Multiverse into play is huge and that is not being talked about enough.
Dr. Strange 2 bringing the Multiverse into play is huge and that is not being talked about enough.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:48 pm to abellsujr
To actually change the game? Sustainability.
The best view of it is Deadpool vs Deadpool 2.
1 was a smash hit. 55m to produce and nearly grazed 800m gross.
2 doubled the budget and came in a nowadays distant second.
So rated R comic movies are profitable. But don't set your eyes on the sun.
We're also not going to see Luthor or Penguin or Captain Cold make this money.
The best view of it is Deadpool vs Deadpool 2.
1 was a smash hit. 55m to produce and nearly grazed 800m gross.
2 doubled the budget and came in a nowadays distant second.
So rated R comic movies are profitable. But don't set your eyes on the sun.
We're also not going to see Luthor or Penguin or Captain Cold make this money.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:35 pm to MF Doom
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Who needs a girlfriend when I have the criterion collection to keep me company
Good comeback, dimwit. I guess I'll remind you that you're on a movie forum bragging both about having shitty taste in movies and about not knowing anything about movies in general. Good job. You sound like a truly valuable member of a community.
So are you in high school, or just, like, a straight up idiot?
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Studio standing behind the Producer and Director when the world tells them to cave to social justice demands.
There isn't a ton of history of studios caving to pressure or demands when the controversy appears 3 weeks before the movie is released and the director is the one who makes it up whole cloth while trying to generate press for the movie.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:15 pm to RollTide1987
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Like it or not, the gig is probably up for the MCU.
That's really easy to say because we won't see another film franchise like the Infinity Saga maybe ever again.
But to think the "gig" is up like they won't be successful in general - welcome to every year since like 2012.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:46 pm to Jay Are
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controversy appears 3 weeks before the movie is released and the director is the one who makes it up whole cloth while trying to generate press for the movie.
Nice try. Who’s making things up? You think the Aurora families were put up to it by Phillips?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:03 pm to ZappBrannigan
quote:It made a billion dollars. It wasn’t just profitable, it made blockbuster money.
So rated R comic movies are profitable. But don't set your eyes on the sun.
And it’s nominated for a million awards. So yeah, it’s kinda breaking new ground for comic movies.
Could they sustain that? Probably not, but they’re proving you can make a variety of movies that fit the characters well. I mean, Joker is a fricking portrait of a serial killer type of movie. And it’s a comic movie for fricks sake lol. Nobody thought that would ever be possible. So yeah, that’s a game changer imo.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
We live in a world where there MCU just had the #1 movie of all time, then announced its weirdest and most ambitious lineup to date...
...DC makes two good movies in a row,& one vastly overrated empty movie centered around a fantastic performance
& they have the upper hand?
What a bunch of nonsense.
Let’s bump this after WandaVision, MoM & The Eternals.
...DC makes two good movies in a row,& one vastly overrated empty movie centered around a fantastic performance
& they have the upper hand?
What a bunch of nonsense.
Let’s bump this after WandaVision, MoM & The Eternals.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:36 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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You think the Aurora families were put up to it by Phillips?
No, and that was 10 days before the movie came out. I don't really blame a small part of a community that suffered a huge tragedy a few years ago for being wary of a serial killer movie connected to the franchise that inspired the last killing. And you shouldn't either, because that would shitty.
They didn't call for a nationwide boycott. The letter read, "a sympathetic origin story [of the Joker]... gave us pause." And then they used their tiny platform to call for a community and world with fewer guns, asking the famous actors in the movie to join them in that movement.
Oh, the horror. I can't believe Warner and the producers of Joker were able to stand firm against that onslaught.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:46 pm to Jay Are
My God you’re a tool. All of that bullshite so you could reinforce the point that I made and you refuted. Just admit you’re wrong instead of throwing yourself on the moral high ground.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
DC will never come close to the quality and consistency of the MCU from Iron Man to Endgame. Idc how they’re doing now that the MCU masterpiece is done
Posted on 1/30/20 at 6:23 am to Upperdecker
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Idc how they’re doing now that the MCU masterpiece is done
The best thing I can say about the MCU is that their movies were consistently decent with some legitimately good movies sprinkled in every now and then. They were hardly masterpieces, however.
DC's lows have been lower than the MCU's lows, but the MCU hasn't come close to matching DC's highs as of yet.
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