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re: Marvel introduces a gay version of Spider-Man. Meet "Web-Weaver"
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:27 am to PowerTool
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:27 am to PowerTool
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Do you think that's still true for younger audiences that have grown up with the pop culture brainwashing?
If you browse any comic book or SciFi reddits, the vast majority of posters are convinced that all of their fictional heroes are gay socialists, even if the stories never say so explicitly.
No, they are catering to the loudest mob on Twitter, which is why none of these books sell. This is the same thing they've done with EVERY franchise that's been taken over lately. They keep doing it because "normies" will generally watch anything and don't know what is and is not cannon for most things and they get social media likes from the loud minority. They lose long time fans in the process.
See LOTR: Rings of Power.
None of these freaks they are attempting to cater to on Twitter are buying their crap. At best, it's an attempt to get a character picked up by Disney Marvel for a TV/Movie deal. It's the equivalent of the 80's stand-up trying to get a sitcom deal based on their 8 minute Carson monologue.
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:28 am to Bard
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It's like they've hired a whole building full of people who either do not understand who their core audience is (young, straight males) or somehow think there is this vast, untapped market of LGBTQANUS comics readers that is far larger and more profitable than their actual audience.
It's not even about creating a gay character. Who cares. It's the more lazy and tokenized idea of creating a gay spider-man because they only find value in the classic characters. It's the same reason they race swap white characters.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:08 am to PowerTool
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Do you think that's still true for younger audiences that have grown up with the pop culture brainwashing?
Yes. It's why both Marvel and DCs unit sales have been dropping for a good decade or so while manga sales have increased.
It's why things like America Chavez's solo book barely made 12 issues before being cancelled, Marvel pretty much re-retcon'd Iceman into not being gay and DC is having a tough time selling Son of Kal-El due to making Superboy gay (it had some initial success due to the controversy of making the character gay, but after that initial buzz the honeymoon faded and the book has struggled). It wouldn't shock me to see this one end up scrapped after a year as well.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:29 am to imjustafatkid
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So a few years from now when they make a live action Spiderman movie with a gay spiderman, they can turn around and claim "see! It was in the comics!" There are losers who frequent this site who fall for that crap.
Just make a good character like Mile Morales. While he is black, it's really not all that important to the character that he is. Make a good movie like Into the Spiderverse and no one gives a shite.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:35 am to OMLandshark
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Just make a good character like Mile Morales.
You just think Miles is a good character because the Spiderverse movie was good lol. The movie did a much better job than the comics ever did.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:37 am to JasonMason
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You just think Miles is a good character because the Spiderverse movie was good lol. The movie did a much better job than the comics ever did.
Yeah, I'm judging him by the movie. They did great with him.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:57 am to Shiftyplus1
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Who do they think they are appealing to? How many gay comic book fans are there? I don't mean Marvel movie fans, I mean the kind of comic fans that go to comic stores and buy comics every week? I guarantee it isn't a high enough number to drag that industry out of the basement where they've put themselves the last 10 years with their social justice, frick-the-white guys bullshite they've been peddling.
There is no audience. They pander because they want to write woke stories and they know someone will publish it in this landscape. Comic book companies forgot their audience years ago and they dont care.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:59 pm to statman34
Yeah, comics were always focused on boys aged 10-18 or whatever. That is the comic book audience whether the comic writers like it or not. And despite the desperate wishes of the writers, boys that age are vastly heterosexual and want to see scantily clad women. They may be nerdy but they know what they want to see. Millions of years of evolution won’t suddenly change.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:21 pm to biglego
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Yeah, comics were always focused on boys aged 10-18 or whatever. That is the comic book audience whether the comic writers like it or not. And despite the desperate wishes of the writers, boys that age are vastly heterosexual and want to see scantily clad women. They may be nerdy but they know what they want to see. Millions of years of evolution won’t suddenly change.
This lack of understanding is why manga books are killing comic books in sales.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:32 pm to Cs
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gay version of Spider-Man
in my day we just called that Spider-Man
Posted on 6/29/22 at 2:45 pm to jdd48
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The whole connotation of a gay superhero shooting "white streams" out of his body is interesting.
Spider-bukkake? You have to admit, this would be a hit in Japan.
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