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re: LOST "What They Died For" S6.E16 (Multi-centric)
Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:58 pm to tuck
Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:58 pm to tuck
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The minute he I saw his question, I had the same thought. If both camps wanted dead Locke back on the island, it really starts to make no sense if the ultimate goal is to keep MIB on the island. None of them go back, boom, MIB is trapped.
Damn
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:59 pm to Freauxzen
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Elie could have contacted Sayid directly and hired him to kill people and recruit people, rather than Ben. It would have given his character something to do.
Ben and Sayid were basically just killing people for revenge. Ellie could not have filled this void.
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And Richard should have killed Jacob, it would have been stronger. Boom. There you go. Ben is unneeded. See my point?
Why would Richard kill Jacob? Jacob has left him slightly in the dark, but he's been his closest confidant. Richard was pretty devastated when Jacob died, so devastated he tried to kill himself. And Ben is obviously the better choice over Richard due to everything he's lost.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:59 pm to Freauxzen
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I don't mean the trap of Lost, but the trap of the show just not being good anymore. Where Miles and I are in.
hahaha. I guess we all just disappear now. Miles is awesome.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:00 pm to Freauxzen
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This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:00 pm to tuck
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The minute he I saw his question, I had the same thought. If both camps wanted dead Locke back on the island, it really starts to make no sense if the ultimate goal is to keep MIB on the island. None of them go back, boom, MIB is trapped.
Preservation of the timeline I'm guessing they thought was more important and they thought that the things in the present would work themselves out. Eloise and Widmore sacrificed their own son to preserve it.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:01 pm to Freauxzen
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Damn
hot damn
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:02 pm to OMLandshark
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"What They Died For"
This obviously refers to Nikki and Palo.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:03 pm to tuck
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The minute he I saw his question, I had the same thought. If both camps wanted dead Locke back on the island, it really starts to make no sense if the ultimate goal is to keep MIB on the island. None of them go back, boom, MIB is trapped.
Why doesn't this make sense again?
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:03 pm to OMLandshark
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Ben and Sayid were basically just killing people for revenge.
So maybe the whole plot was unneeded.
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Why would Richard kill Jacob? Jacob has left him slightly in the dark, but he's been his closest confidant. Richard was pretty devastated when Jacob died, so devastated he tried to kill himself. And Ben is obviously the better choice over Richard due to everything he's lost.
I'm not saying the Richard we have seen come to pass to kill Jacob, you write the character differently. We did see this Richard go crazy, why not go all the way and kill Jacob? This place is hell right? Let him continue the ride. Jacob lied for a two hundred years to him. That's a long time....plenty enough motive to be important.
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And Ben is obviously the better choice over Richard due to everything he's lost.
I've said before, YOU ARE RIGHT. Ben was a great character to kill Jacob as well. Too bad his character sucks otherwise and HIS EXISTING AT THIS POINT is illogical. Otherwise, yeah, perfect character for that moment.
Still you get stuck on details and not the point. I might have to stop using examples, because you reply to the example rather than the idea.
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:03 pm to Antonio Moss
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This obviously refers to Nikki and Palo.
Greed and being horrible people. MIB judged them and gave them a very creative and awesome death. While it doesn't add pretty much anything to the overall plot of LOST, Expose has to be the most under rated episode of the series.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:05 pm to tuck
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If both camps wanted dead Locke back on the island, it really starts to make no sense if the ultimate goal is to keep MIB on the island. None of them go back, boom, MIB is trapped.
Jacob needed the candidates back on the Island so one of them could replace him. They were the last of his candidates so it looks like Jacob would have had to protect the Island for the remainder of eternity had they not come back. I'd say he wanted them back.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:06 pm to Freauxzen
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So maybe the whole plot was unneeded.
You're right, but I still enjoyed that little sidestory.
Also I see this conversation just going in circles. Bury the hatchet for now
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:07 pm to Decatur
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Jacob needed the candidates back on the Island so one of them could replace him.
Right. Jacob wants Locke back because he's a candidate. MIB wants Locke back because of the loophole.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:08 pm to OMLandshark
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Greed and being horrible people. MIB judged them and gave them a very creative and awesome death. While it doesn't add pretty much anything to the overall plot of LOST, Expose has to be the most under rated episode of the series.
yin and yang again. Good and bad coexisting, light and dark. Smokey being underneath the temple (which I always thought was very odd because ash around the temple would be meaningless but then again wasn't MIB trapped in the cabin for a while or just pretending to be?) as the cold hand of justice for Jacob's followers in the presumably Egyptian temple above.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:10 pm to Decatur
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Jacob needed the candidates back on the Island so one of them could replace him. They were the last of his candidates so it looks like Jacob would have had to protect the Island for the remainder of eternity had they not come back. I'd say he wanted them back.
I came to the same conclusion that he wanted to die, but at the same time, he was disappointed in Ben's decision at the last seconds before he stabbed him, as Miles reveals later. Those don't have to be mutually exclusive though, correct?
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:10 pm to STLSU
Whose the biggest lost fan on this board if everyone had to name one
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:12 pm to STLSU
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Smokey being underneath the temple (which I always thought was very odd because ash around the temple would be meaningless but then again wasn't MIB trapped in the cabin for a while or just pretending to be?)
I don't think he was ever underneath the temple. He was underneath the wall around the temple. I think in the second episode this season the made some reference to there being a good bit of distance between the wall and temple itself.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:12 pm to CP3LSU25
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Whose the biggest lost fan on this board if everyone had to name one
Freauxzen
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:12 pm to STLSU
this thread is epic. It's like the pregame before the Super Bowl, BCSNG or some big time sporting event. Where they play all the old Super Bowls and Jimmy Johnson and company cracking up and getting hype.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:14 pm to Antonio Moss
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I don't think he was ever underneath the temple. He was underneath the wall around the temple. I think in the second episode this season the made some reference to there being a good bit of distance between the wall and temple itself.
gotcha. When he judged Ben, he had already cleared out the temple with Sayid's help I think? And the ash was presumably broken. Dogen's protection gone.
I can't remember, I'm out. See yall alter.
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 3:16 pm
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