re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18

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But neither is more right or wrong than the other. And that's something that you've seemed to have said numerous times.

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Actually, I don't recall saying anyone is wrong. On the contrary, the first group are now mocking the second group and saying they are wrong and there is no other way.

Saying something is illogical, which yeah I have done multiple times, isn't necessarily saying someone else is wrong.

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Another thing that I thought is what happens to Alpert now? I'm guessing that since he got a gray hair he can age now.

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Speaking of, they sure made his character in the end rather unimportant. Albeit one with an interesting one episode back story.

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so were they dead from the very 1st show in season one? did anyone survive the crash?

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The island is not purgatory. The island was real.

The alt world was purgatory.

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Didn't the original plane crashers just move to a better location in the first few episodes? The wreckage and fuselage would still be there. But I agree, why show it? I think the writers could not muster up enough courage/confidence to write a clear cut ending. They purposely made it vague and left open the possiblity for alternate interpretations to cover their own arse, which I think is a cop out. If they knew all along what the Island was, as they have claimed, then they should have stuck to their guns and told us what they "knew"

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The cork is the best analogy that we will get for the Island, and there quite literally was a cork holding back hell, darkness, and malevolence. The best guess I have is the Island may literally be the gates of hell. We don't need to be more specific.

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. You may see the faults, and even acknowledge their existence, but you easily toss that aside.

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as someone who quit watching after season 3 and just watched last night, when I see faults I toss them aside as bad writing and plot holes that made me fall out of love with the show in the first place.

I don't see them as some secret grander plan of the writers who were just making shite up as they went along.

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..regardless of throwing an "illogical" comment in there, comes off like you're right and they are wrong. And I'm not saying that's how you feel, just how it comes off sometimes when reading your posts.

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Saying something isn't "clear cut" isn't necessarily saying the other person is "wrong," but yeah I see your point. I don't think the other interpretation is wrong either, but I think there is plenty of evidence for the contrary. Which is the problem I have. I actually haven't decided on which I like better. My problem is that there is interpretation by the way they ended it, but it was a cheap and manipulative way to allow interpretation. That's my point, and Myth would agree.

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Sure I'd still like answers to some things, and some things that I consider to be "major" points. But just because I don't get those doesn't ruin the overall show for me. I think Lost is an awesome show that got tarnished for a lot of people due to over-critical, over-thunk analysis.

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I agree completely.. I'm actually ok with leaving the island up for interpretation. Was it blocking hell? Evil? Those are good questions to be left with. Those are satisfying thoughts.

But you have to admit, Cuse and Lidelhof consciously allowed and even pushed for over-analysis, even with the use of cheap tricks.

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Lindelof and Cuse said that was a result of the Hydrogen bomb detonating in The Incident.

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It's never been confirmed that H-bomb went off (especially now considering what we know about the alternate reality). The Incident did cause pregnant women to die on the island, but we don't know if the Incident was the bomb going off or the release of the electromagnetic energy.

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and what is dog spelled backwards God. BLEW MY MIND.

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Those like OML, Decatur, Eric, and Port, and GF, no offense, will rationalize anything they see on the show for the easiest path of resistance in regards to emotion.

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Not true for me. I've expressed displeasure with some of the things they've done on the show.

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You also only see it one way, there is no other.

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I think that there are plenty things left up for interpretation. The crash scene during the credits I don't see how that is open to interpretation. Aaron was a baby at the church because was Aaron had just been born in the flash-sideways...at least the way it was presented to the audience. I think it is as simple as that.

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You don't look for the better solution, the more efficient or meaningful solution, you only look for the one that was given, maybe obtusely, but still given. You may see the faults, and even acknowledge their existence, but you easily toss that aside.

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So what? It's their show. You're definitely setting yourself up for disappointment if you try to rewrite the show in your mind just so you can see how much better you could have made it. There's a shite ton on this show that I think I could have made better or at least more to my liking. But what's the point really. I still think the show ended great.

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For you, things being clear cut equate to your emotions being fulfilled. Notice, all of your reaction to the show is facilitated by an emotional response.

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I think the writers focused the ending on the personal ties between the characters on the show and the audience's ties with the characters. There's nothing wrong ending the show with emotional catharsis.

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What ticks us off is the CONSCIOUS decision by Cuse and Lidelhof to muddy the ending. That's the biggest problem for me.

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I don't see how the ending was muddied. I just don't. Chalk it up to me being a fanboy. I don't care.

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Maybe we are too analytical

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This isn't Joyce.