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re: LOST "Across the Sea" S6.E15 (Jacob/MIB Centric)
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:17 pm to The Godfather
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:17 pm to The Godfather
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So does anyone think that MIB is not his brother, that his brother died that day, but when he put him in that cave, it released the smoke monster and it is using his brothers image, or is it the "spirit" of his brother?
Maybe his omnipotent mother should have told him not to throw a body in there or a big giant pillar of black smoke will start fricking shite up.
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:18 pm to etm512
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Maybe his omnipotent mother should have told him not to throw a body in there or a big giant pillar of black smoke will start fricking shite up.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:18 pm to Crede15
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Yeah I liked the part about the light being beautiful.
I want to agree with Tuck's post, and I do agree with the idea that things being left open for interpretation is not inherently bad at all but I just can't shake the feeling that the writers are using that as a crutch.
They knew that creating all these mysteries about the island was a brilliant way of maintaining interest in the show and now that they can't answer them, well some things should just be left open to interpretation.
Its been a great show. It was probably a bit too ambitious.
+1
I don't want answers to everything. I actually like when things are left to interpretation.
But the writers just introduced way too many "Chekov's guns" over the course of the series that they probably hope the viewers have forgotten about and clearly have no intention of resolving at this point.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:19 pm to TDTGodfather
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we know why our losties are there, jacob brings them there.
also i don't think MIB has gotten off the island before. if anything this episode disproves the "game" theory and i guess i;m somewhat disappointed by that.
I'm still not positive about that.
We know that Jacob brings people to the island; we just don't know why. If his true intent was to keep MIB from getting off the island at all cost, we would never bring people there. Even the candidate theory doesn't work because there would be no need to replace Jacob if 815 never came to the island which lead to Locke's death, which lead to the loophole and Jacob's ultimate death.
I was almost certain that the last scene of this episode was going to be Jacob and MIB sitting down and setting up the rules of the game. Hell, they even eluded to Jacob being able to make the rule when makes the game.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:19 pm to etm512
yeah, what if the smoke monster read Jacob's brother's memories just like he read everyone else's and has been posing as his brother to manipulate Jacob.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:21 pm to etm512
btw i thought they said that this episode takes place in 32 A.D. but is that ever stated??
with that knowledge i turned to my wife in the first ten minutes and said,
"I wonder if the spanish looking woman (the twins biological mother) was mary magdalen (sp?)"
wait did christ die in 33 AD? nevermind if so.
with that knowledge i turned to my wife in the first ten minutes and said,
"I wonder if the spanish looking woman (the twins biological mother) was mary magdalen (sp?)"
wait did christ die in 33 AD? nevermind if so.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:25 pm to Antonio Moss
The game is that Jacob wants to prove that humans are good and MIB wants to get off the island... Jacob has to bring people to the island to prove to MIB that humans are good.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:27 pm to Antonio Moss
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I'm still not positive about that.
We know that Jacob brings people to the island; we just don't know why. If his true intent was to keep MIB from getting off the island at all cost, we would never bring people there. Even the candidate theory doesn't work because there would be no need to replace Jacob if 815 never came to the island which lead to Locke's death, which lead to the loophole and Jacob's ultimate death.
I was almost certain that the last scene of this episode was going to be Jacob and MIB sitting down and setting up the rules of the game. Hell, they even eluded to Jacob being able to make the rule when makes the game.
well you should've written the episode b/c trust me i like your ending better.
i guess we'll see if they actually elaborate anymore. i guess i just thought this would be the episode with a bunch of answers and the rest of the episodes would be the resolution to the conflict.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:28 pm to joshnorris14
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The game is that Jacob wants to prove that humans are good and MIB wants to get off the island... Jacob has to bring people to the island to prove to MIB that humans are good.
I don't like that. If there are dire consequences if MIB escapes, then who really gives a shite at the end of the day if humans are good or not? A win for Jacob is nothing. A loss and everyone is screwed? And Jacob made these rules? Huge moron if so.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:29 pm to Desmond Hume
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was anyone else upset that the oil spill has reached the island??? it was sad seeing the poor turtle next to MIB
Best response in this whole fricking thread.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:29 pm to joshnorris14
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The game is that Jacob wants to prove that humans are good and MIB wants to get off the island... Jacob has to bring people to the island to prove to MIB that humans are good.
link??
yeah i want you to be right but what in this episode leads you to believe that?? in fact take out the season 5 finale and just on this episode you would never draw the conclusion that this is a game. even though i want it to be in some way.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:30 pm to etm512
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I don't like that. If there are dire consequences if MIB escapes, then who really gives a shite at the end of the day if humans are good or not? A win for Jacob is nothing. A loss and everyone is screwed? And Jacob made these rules? Huge moron if so.
Jacob has no reason to care about the world though.
He's protector of the island, not the world.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:31 pm to TDTGodfather
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yeah i want you to be right but what in this episode leads you to believe that??
Nothing in this episode... I've thought that was obvious since Ab Aeterno.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:32 pm to TDTGodfather
This thread is full of:
People have been telling you for years that you weren't going to be satisfied with the end of Lost if you expected an answer to every little question you've had. Heck, the writers have even had the character's mock you and state that you aren't going to get all the answers.
Get over it.
People have been telling you for years that you weren't going to be satisfied with the end of Lost if you expected an answer to every little question you've had. Heck, the writers have even had the character's mock you and state that you aren't going to get all the answers.
Get over it.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:32 pm to TDTGodfather
it is in some way a game, the rules aren't clear yet but i think we will see what they are eventually.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:32 pm to etm512
quote:Maybe he goes back in the cave and becomes "the light" again if he loses?
I don't like that. If there are dire consequences if MIB escapes, then who really gives a shite at the end of the day if humans are good or not? A win for Jacob is nothing. A loss and everyone is screwed? And Jacob made these rules? Huge moron if so.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:34 pm to Cajun Revolution
if there was no light left on the island after smoke came out, what the hell was all those sparks/light when ben turns the wheel to move the island?
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:34 pm to joshnorris14
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Jacob has no reason to care about the world though.
He's protector of the island, not the world.
So if he doesn't care about the world, then why does he play a game to prove that people are good?
Not being an argumentative dick, I just think that answer doesn't fit. But then again that seems to be the theme tonight.
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:36 pm to tuck
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Maybe he goes back in the cave and becomes "the light" again if he loses?
So nobody has won or lost this entire time?
Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:37 pm to etm512
well we know he was trapped in the cabin before also
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