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re: LOST "Across the Sea" S6.E15 (Jacob/MIB Centric)

Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:02 pm to
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any question I answer will only lead to more questions



I forgot she said that, but it certainly does some up Lost perfectly.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:02 pm to
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tuck



well said
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:03 pm to
+1 Tuck

oh, and
Jacob = Faith
MIB = Reason
Posted by jlsutiger
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:04 pm to
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but missed the spoiler where they said Across the Sea was scripted out on a bev nap in 20min because it was their turn to drop the kids off at soccer practice
completely agree Stu. I thought the writing was horrible for this episode. They just threw some weak arse story together to answer a bunch of questions that they likely never really thought how to answer until now. As I watched it I kept thinking "THIS cannot be what we have been wating for. This cannot be the answers to all of our questions". HUGE letdown.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:05 pm to
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Anyone expecting any kind of detailed explanation for what "the light is" or why it needs protecting are only setting themselves up for disappointment. The light can be anything you want it to be...God, Goodness, life, peace...whatever...it doesn't matter. It's something bigger than us.

yeah i guess my main complaint is getting pulp fiction suitcased on the light.
Posted by TexasTigah
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:05 pm to
The thought that MIB absorbed some of the light reminds me of season 1, when the smoke looks Locke in the face and Locke describes it as the heart of the island and how it was beautiful.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:06 pm to
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oh, and
Jacob = Faith
MIB = Reason

ok that i like.

Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:07 pm to
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when the smoke looks Locke in the face and Locke describes it as the heart of the island and how it was beautiful.







damn, i forgot he said that.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:08 pm to
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Jacob = Faith
MIB = Reason




Put me down for Team MIB.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:09 pm to
Why are so many people so persistent that we know the MIB's name? Why does it matter?
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:09 pm to
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The thought that MIB absorbed some of the light reminds me of season 1, when the smoke looks Locke in the face and Locke describes it as the heart of the island and how it was beautiful.

ok i like that too. maybe i just need to go to bed and mentally unpack this episode with the entire run of the show.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:09 pm to
So does anyone think that MIB is not his brother, that his brother died that day, but when he put him in that cave, it released the smoke monster and it is using his brothers image, or is it the "spirit" of his brother?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:11 pm to
Around 4:00 this afternoon, I posted that I really hoped they didn't try to give us an answer as to who Jacob and MIB were and this episode is exactly why.

There was no way to answer that question without coming off cheesy. Fanboys of this show bitch too much about getting answers to questions that really shouldn't be answered.

We know the island is special, but telling us why its special is going to come off crazy.

We know MIB and Jacob are god-like, but telling us that came to be is going to come off cheesy.

The only really thing that needed to be addressed in this episode is the one thing not addressed. Why were the main characters brought to the island?

This episode would have been 1000 times better if we would have watched the last batch of candidates fail to keep MIB off the island and watch Jacob lose his game. Then at least we'd go into the finale understanding the role the main characters play.

Instead, we're still not sure of why they're there.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:12 pm to
Hmmm...interesting...


Also, is there any wine left?
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:12 pm to
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So does anyone think that MIB is not his brother, that his brother died that day, but when he put him in that cave, it released the smoke monster and it is using his brothers image, or is it the "spirit" of his brother?
Yes, this is exactly what I think.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:12 pm to
Yeah I liked the part about the light being beautiful.

I want to agree with Tuck's post, and I do agree with the idea that things being left open for interpretation is not inherently bad at all but I just can't shake the feeling that the writers are using that as a crutch.

They knew that creating all these mysteries about the island was a brilliant way of maintaining interest in the show and now that they can't answer them, well some things should just be left open to interpretation.

Its been a great show. It was probably a bit too ambitious.

This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:13 pm to
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So does anyone think that MIB is not his brother, that his brother died that day, but when he put him in that cave, it released the smoke monster and it is using his brothers image, or is it the "spirit" of his brother?


I thought that was pretty obvious.

"He stole my body, my humanity"

"He is evil incarnate"
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:14 pm to
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This episode would have been 1000 times better if we would have watched the last batch of candidates fail to keep MIB off the island and watch Jacob lose his game. Then at least we'd go into the finale understanding the role the main characters play.

Instead, we're still not sure of why they're there.

we know why our losties are there, jacob brings them there.

also i don't think MIB has gotten off the island before. if anything this episode disproves the "game" theory and i guess i;m somewhat disappointed by that.
Posted by etm512
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:14 pm to
Count me in the underwhelmed group. Magic potion and shiny rocks. Awesome. They went out of their way to make sure we could all ansewer the "who are Adam and Eve" question (which was trivial at best) but then posed 100 more questions which seem to be more important than ever as to how this whole thing is playing out.

Also I tend to like MIB more after this episode because Jacob is a little momma's boy bitch.

ETA: That episode could have been 10 minutes long and accomplished the same that it did.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 10:16 pm
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 10:16 pm to
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Why were the main characters brought to the island?


i'm still not sure if it's because Desmond quit pressing the buttons or Jacob brought them there, my guess is they are tied together lol
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