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re: LOST "Across the Sea" S6.E15 (Jacob/MIB Centric)

Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:23 pm to
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Just tell me why mib is bad.


he's been changed...jacob's mom said that it would be worse than death.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:25 pm to
Ok... so what is "the light"? What does it symbolize? Why does it need protecting?


Is their some religous analogy that I am missing? I haven't been to church in a while.
Posted by Auric Goldfinger
TX
Member since Jan 2009
136 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:25 pm to
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I think we all just expected more answers on this episode - with 2, really 3 more episodes we should have known better. I'm curious to know what his name is.


At this point the funniest possibility is Adam.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:25 pm to
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The only problem I have is that MIB doesn't seem that bad.
I def agree with this
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:26 pm to
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At this point the funniest possibility is Adam.


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:26 pm to
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Doesn't it have to do with why babies can't be conceived on the island?

I think they'll explain it.


The writers said in the podcast the Incident caused it.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32838 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:27 pm to
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but to be honest we always knew the core answers were probably going to be weak or unexplained.


this.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:28 pm to
well isn't the statue the goddess of fertility, or was that bs?

i just don't see how they don't explain how jacob went from living in the cave to living in a giant random statue.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 9:29 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:29 pm to
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We also know why MIB can't get off the island... Oh wait, no we don't.



Yeah, in the very least this was the one answer I expected to be answered in this episode.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6204 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:29 pm to
ok i'm not going to go back and read this thread but if some were disappointed i guess you could lump me in with them.

i was expecting this to be the episode that shed some light on the island (no pun intended) and i guess it was only a jacob/MIB thing.

also i guess i already knew because of spoilers who adam and eve were so that wasn't an earthshaking moment. should it have been?

i think i built this episode to be more than it was, i thought we'd learn more about the island which in a way we did but the nickel version i took from it is "jacob is protecting a light on the island".

that's it???

the writers pulp fiction suitcased us??????

i gotta take it all in maybe even watch it again. i mean i know the light probably symbolizes something all men strive to possess and blah blah but i'm going to have to sleep on how i feel about this episode. and i'm a lost sunshine pumper so to speak.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:30 pm to
Anyone expecting realistic answers was out to lunch, but I was hoping they would come up with something better than he drank some wine.

Where did the mother come from? Where did she get her "powers?" How desperate for work was she that she read this script and said, ok.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 9:30 pm
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33391 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:31 pm to
I think that's my issue with where the story is headed as well - too much metaphor and allegorical stuff that feels kind of like a cop out.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 9:32 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90331 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:32 pm to
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i just don't see how they don't explain how jacob went from living in the cave to living in a giant random statue.


There's still 3 and half hours left. I would think that would be addressed.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:33 pm to
yes its clear that the writers haven't decided to leave things open for speculation because that's how they wanted, they just wrote themselves into a corner and didn't know how to resolve it.

There have been a few excellent episodes this season. Its not like its been all bad. Maybe I just had way too high expectations for this episode.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:33 pm to
i agree

the episode really wasn't that bad
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27191 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:33 pm to
ok, so the woman obviously had powers. she blessed the wine to give him immortality, and when they were young she obviously did something to make it so they can't kill each other. there need to be some more complex rules tho because MIB killed Jacob using a loophole. Is it really a loophole to have someone else kill him? i'm thinkin it has something to do with free will. this also showed that the woman was tired of protecting the light, just as jacob probably was which is why he allowed himself to be killed.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:34 pm to
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Maybe I just had way too high expectations for this episode.


this
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14846 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:34 pm to
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It was supposed to be the Island backstory episode. I really wanted to know about the people that built the statue, and that obviously isn't going to happen.



No, but I must assume you are right. MIB knew he could manipulate time with the EM. But I swear I didn't see the light anymore when he left after Jacob killed him. Maybe that is what killed the light, but not the ability to manipulate time and such. Or maybe the light isn't completely out like you said. I'll just have to wait until tomorrow to catch it again online.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:34 pm to
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i'm a lost sunshine pumper so to speak.


This is the first time I have been aggravated and disappointed with Lost since the second season.

I'm freaking anxious about the end.
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2691 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 9:35 pm to
The light has turned to darkness.
I'm guessing cuse and lindelof are big Tolkien fans.
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