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re: LOST "Across the Sea" S6.E15 (Jacob/MIB Centric)

Posted on 5/11/10 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

I've mentioned this before, but...what does it take for Jack to become Jacob's replacement? At first I was thinking there might have to be a ceremony of sorts. Now I'm wondering if Jack has already taken Jacob's place and he just doesn't realize it yet.

Thoughts?
I've been thinking about this and the only thing I keep coming to is that maybe he has to willingly die in some sort of selfless way.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 2:21 pm to
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Why?


cause Charlie is one ugly mofo

quote:

Dominic, the guy who plays Charlie, is tapping this:
So it doesn't suck that bad.


Looks don't matter when your a millionaire celebrity, and I doubt colorchangintiger is one (no offense, cct)
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 2:48 pm to
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cause Charlie is one ugly mofo


I've never thought one way or another. Just another dude.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32754 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 2:54 pm to
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I would rather that a few mysteries are left at the end of the series.


We've got plenty of room for that.

I hear what you are saying though. I would rather they had not answered the whispers mystery than do it in the half-assed way that they did.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 2:58 pm to
Quick question. Now that we know MIB plan why didn't he kill the candidates from the beginning. He could have done it whenever he wanted to
Posted by The Boob
Member since Mar 2010
773 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 2:58 pm to
Ya, I'm ok with leaving mysteries, but that is definitely not one to leave unanswered.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 3:00 pm to
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He could have done it whenever he wanted to
Huh?
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 3:01 pm to
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Now that we know MIB plan why didn't he kill the candidates from the beginning. He could have done it whenever he wanted to


What are you talking about? MIB can't kill the candidates.
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 3:24 pm to
is this tonight's thread at 13 pages already?? yall are just doing this on purpose now
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108338 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 3:31 pm to
Just thinking about all the possible ways the story could go at this point and I'm still clueless. Of all the major theories out there I really don't like any of them

I hate the reincarnation angle.

I hate the "so in so becomes the new so in so" angle.

I really don't like the Alt is epilogue because it cheapens the deaths of characters who died.

not sure how its going to wrap up but I hope they come up with someting good.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 3:37 pm to
[quote


What are you talking about? MIB can't kill the candidates[/quote]

what I mean is why didn't he get people to kill the candidates
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 3:42 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 3:42 pm to
On a iPhone right now can't type worth shite on this
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 3:51 pm to
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what I mean is why didn't he get people to kill the candidates


isn't that what he's been doing the whole time?
Posted by The Boob
Member since Mar 2010
773 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 4:09 pm to
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what I mean is why didn't he get people to kill the candidates


as I said earlier, I think he wanted to finish them all off at the same time. That is the only thing I can think of that justifies him not killing Sawyer/Sayid/Jin while they sat around the camp.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 4:11 pm
Posted by TigerInBamaLand
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2007
4178 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 4:10 pm to
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what I mean is why didn't he get people to kill the candidates
He had to use them to kill Jacob. That's what everything (5 seasons worth) was setting up to.

Once he had that accomplished he went about trying to get the candidates killed. Which leads us up to now ....
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108338 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 4:20 pm to
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He had to use them to kill Jacob. That's what everything (5 seasons worth) was setting up to.


No way. The producers did not have a clue about Jacob or MIB or candidates until beginning of season 3 and even then it wasn't fully fleshed out.

They have all but admitted they made up all this as they went along to try and make the show the best they could.
Posted by TigerInBamaLand
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2007
4178 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 4:28 pm to
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No way
Yes way ... and it has nothing to do with whether or not the producers knew it from the beginning.

This is the reason that MIB did not kill them (or get someone to kill them) outright. It doesn't matter if the producers came up with that story at the begging of the show or at the start of season 3 ... it's what the story is NOW and that is the question.

ETA: I was responding to this original question:
quote:

Quick question. Now that we know MIB plan why didn't he kill the candidates from the beginning.
The answer is that he needed them to kill Jacob. It doesn't matter when the producers came up with the idea. This is the answer.
This post was edited on 5/11/10 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108338 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 4:35 pm to
candidates did not kill jacob. Ben did.
Posted by TigerInBamaLand
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2007
4178 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 4:37 pm to
Jebus ... did he not need Locke to get into the statue and convince Ben?

So if it's not to kill Jacob, why do you think that MIB is only now trying to get the candidates to kill one another/die?

(p.s. one of the Linus' was a candidate )
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 5/11/10 at 4:43 pm to
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what I mean is why didn't he get people to kill the candidates


I think he has been pitting people against each other since the beginning of the show and we have seen countless candidates killed (by each other or Island inhabitants). So much so, that only 3 (of the original 108 candidates are still alive).Not sure what you are getting at. It isn't easy to convince people to commit murder.
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