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re: Lord of the Rings was such a great trilogy

Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:53 am to
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:53 am to
He didn’t add or help progress the story. That is why he was left out. Film & books are 2 different forms of story telling.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:12 pm to
Not to mention he can make a hearty stew in the middle of no where with basic ingredients.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:40 pm to

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Not to mention he can make a hearty stew in the middle of no where with basic ingredients.


Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:42 pm to
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Lord of the Rings was such a great trilogy


The single best trilogy in all of cinema.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:50 pm to
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Faramir is probably the only character that wasn't done justice.


To a certain extent. I can definitely see how fans of the books will think this, but you need some dramatic tension if you're an audience member who has never read the books. Will he or won't he take them to the Steward of Gondor so he can finally be loved the way his older brother Boromir was loved? By the end of the film, Faramir takes the path his book version took: he selflessly allows Frodo and Sam to pass even if it means forfeiting his own life in the process.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:42 pm to
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For a movie based even in the LotR world, it's just overly silly and farfetched.


No, this is where you are wrong. The movies are based on the writings of Tolkien. The actual book “The Hobbit” does have a more childish, sillier tone to it than the Lord of the Rings books. Jackson actually nailed that part really well if you wanted to stay accurate to the books. The problem as others have stated was breaking it into 3 movies and over using the CGI.

And for the record, I love the plate throwing scene at the beginning of the Hobbit.
Posted by Russvegas Dan
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:06 am to
I love that this thread gets made all the time and instead of getting downvoted into oblivion everyone just reads the op and goes YUP!
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:25 am to
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I guess Avatar/Pandora could be considered that type of movie, but it dind't grab me like LOTR


I don’t know anyone who gaf about Avatar. Everyone has seen them but nobody loves them. Do you know anyone who has Avatar as their favorite movie? Such a person doesn’t exist.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:27 am to
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guess Avatar/Pandora could be considered that type of movie
are you fricking serious?? Un-obtanium? One dimensional bad guys? Those movies are absolutely awful and are only in the conversation because Cameron ripped off ideas from studio Ghibli that nobody was aware of at the time.

Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:27 am to
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No, this is where you are wrong. The movies are based on the writings of Tolkien. The actual book “The Hobbit” does have a more childish, sillier tone to it than the Lord of the Rings books. Jackson actually nailed that part really well if you wanted to stay accurate to the books.

I mean, I'm not wrong...that's literally what I don't like about them. I don't care if it stayed true to the books with its tone. The movies are overly cartoonish and that takes me out of them a bit. The rest of the movie(s) is fine, but the overly cartoonish-to-the-point-of-absurdity parts are kinda stupid for me.
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And for the record, I love the plate throwing scene at the beginning of the Hobbit.

Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:35 am to
As a wee tot I remember reading the Hobbit and being so excited for the rankin-bass version on TV and this is one of my earliest memories of being irrationally angry about something.

I felt such loyalty to the material because the book blew me away and then we got that embarrassing crap.

This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 6:36 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:58 am to
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are you fricking serious?? Un-obtanium? One dimensional bad guys? Those movies are absolutely awful and are only in the conversation because Cameron ripped off ideas from studio Ghibli that nobody was aware of at the time.


Talking about entering a world that is completely different than our own. Dont know how you missed that. Seems most understood.

Other movies like this would probably be neverending story or narnia.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:04 am to
Spirited Away, Mononoke, Nausicaa, Laputa...all pretty epic worlds unlike anything else but with actual complex characters who aren't drawn like cartoon characters like Cameron did.

Which is ironic considering...
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:07 am to
Those are also anime. Wouldn't consider that the same.

I actually still havent watched Way of Water, but I remember the stories coming out after Avatar of people becoming depressed because they wanted to live in Pandora world. I don't think you get that kind of immersion in an anime like Spirited Away.

Middle Earth felt like a real place.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 7:16 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:23 am to
Because the medium is animated? What does that have to do with the story?

Lol @ anyone wanting to live on avatar-planet.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:26 am to
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Because the medium is animated? What does that have to do with the story?

It has to do with the world feeling like a real place people had seen and could visit.

I like the Ghibli movies but they never felt like a real place that I visited for a few hours like Middle Earth felt after the Lord of the Rings.
Posted by Duzz
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Peter Jackson did a great job staying truthful to the original works. Now go read the books.



I couldn't get into the books, the prose is so bland. I know he is the OG, but its real more like historical information dump which while great for world building, but I enjoy the narrative focus Peter Jackson film presented it in.

Of course that doesn't meant o say I haven't read books, everyone and their mother read GRRM, but I also read David Eddingtons, Robert Jordans (WoT TV sucks) Elizabeth Haydon (First real female centric fantasy book with an epic plot) Chris Bunch (Seer King need to be made by HBO PRONTO) and JR Rowling. THere are others but is more like Warhammer, dnd and what not, all of those, I could read fine but LOTR and Hobbit is fricking difficult, doesn't stimulate my imagination whatsoever.

Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:15 pm to
The apex of quality big budget blockbusters

It’s been all downhill since
Posted by Jaydeaux
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:51 pm to
Dexterity and Magic. You have elves, dwarves, and dragons but want realism?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:15 am to
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Dexterity and Magic. You have elves, dwarves, and dragons but want realism?

Yes. Realism within the universe the movie exists in. Physics exists in that world, yet we see completely ridiculous shite that defies it (and not simply with "magic").
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