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re: Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power trailers (updated with new comic con trailer)

Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:34 am to
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7081 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:34 am to
Galadriel wasn't a warrior... at all, but the zeitgeist demands a female hero. There were no black elves or hobbits, but again. Dwarf women had beards; Not happening. There is only one Durin alive at a time, but there are two in the show, lore be damned. I'm sure there will be gay characters shove down our throats (pun intended), but that doesn't bother me. Doesn't change much story. The race changes are just silly because they don't even make sense from a geographical/anthropological perspective.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78298 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:35 am to
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Because they don’t have an argument they can use to refute what the fanbase is saying.


They do you just don’t like it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:38 am to
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They do you just don’t like it.


The arguments are clearly from people who have never read the books. You said a couple months ago this is why you like Lord of the Rings:

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I loved the LOTR movies. Because there were swords and monsters and action and magic.


That’s why teenagers love Lord of the Rings, dude. You are not an actual fan and have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to this universe.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10267 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:39 am to
Damn, that looks rad as frick. I'll definitely be watching.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15753 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:43 am to
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Aren't those big footed peeps Hobbits towards the end?


Technically yes. One thing I've noticed is that they have been careful not to use the word Hobbit, though. They keep calling them Harfoots (which is just a breed of Hobbit). Also, there is no record of Hobbits existing in the Second Age. That doesn't mean some early form of Hobbit didn't exist then, being that they're believed to be an offshoot of the race of Men. But this just seems to be them playing fast and loose with the lore.
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
1016 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:44 am to
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That’s why teenagers love Lord of the Rings, dude. You are not an actual fan and have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to this universe.


Do you want my screen name?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78298 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:45 am to
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That’s why teenagers love Lord of the Rings, dude.


Well I was 11-13 years old when they came out. I also Loved the books. I just Read the Hobbit aloud to my then in utero child.

At no point ever reading the books did I think: these would be ruined if Frodo was black.

You miss the forest for the trees. Consistently. It can be a good enjoyable show based on Tolkein’s works while having black actors. It can be a good and not be a page by page remake of the silmarillion.

You haven’t seen any of this show. You’re upset because you’re a douche.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 10:49 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54310 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:50 am to
The portrayal of Galadriel and Celebrimbor in the limited footage so far just throws me for a loop.

Celebrimbor is one of the biggest badasses in the LOTR universe and this is what we get:

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:52 am to
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At no point ever reading the books did I think: these would be ruined if Frodo was black. You kiss the forest for the trees.

Consistently. It can be a good enjoyable show based on Tolkein’s works while having black actors. It can be a good and not be a page by page remake of the silmarillion.


Yeah imply everyone who doesn’t agree with you is a racist, mother fricker. That’s all you have as a retort because you’re full of shite and can’t defend any of this without slandering someone. Every time you and the Woke say this, we double down.

You know who the actual racists are: the people who have point blank said about this series that people can’t identify with someone outside of their race. This has been directly said that now kids of different races will now finally have someone to identify with in Tolkien’s universe. In other words, they point blank say that minorities should not be able to identify with Frodo. So talk about a self own.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78298 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:55 am to
Tell me why exactly your upset about the black actors then?

I was implying you’re petty dogmatic and shallow at best you inferred I was Calling you racist.

I wasn’t upset with the all white original trilogy, I’m not upset now. it’s not as important as the themes and narrative.
To me at least
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:05 am
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41790 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:05 am to
The production value is there, I’ll give it that.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5864 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:08 am to
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Yeah imply everyone who doesn’t agree with you is a racist, mother fricker.


You spent the past 3 pages saying, not implying, that everyone who disagrees with your opinion isn't a fan, while implying they're an idiot unworthy of an opinion. I don't know if you should be employing the "broad strokes" generalization defense.

It does seem like you're actively trying to be a douche right now because the trailer wasn't the crapshow you thought it would be. The show could still be awful, but there's very little to complain about in those two minutes. Maybe not much to be excited about either, for many of you.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19166 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:13 am to
That looked like total garbage. You people are crazy saying it looked good. You can find me at the Sonic if you want on this one
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:15 am to
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Tell me why exactly your upset about the black actors then?


That’s secondary compared to the actual themes and tones coming from this. Like they filmed this and thought this would appeal to the fanbase:

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“People are going to fall in love with Sauron and say I can change him.”


Yeah, that thought has never gone through a Lord of the Rings fan’s mind ever. A reminder to everyone of the superfans reaction that Amazon brought out to endorse the series before you get too hyped up on this trailer: YouTube

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I was implying you’re petty dogmatic and shallow at best


bullshite. You have directly called me a racist before and I resent that heavily. You can not refute my point on the live action Avatar: The Last Airbender which is another high fantasy series with a similar budget that will be released in the next few months but was appropriately cast with an entirely asian and indigenous cast. Not a single white person on the cast and I’d be much more upset if they did that than have a black elf.

So until you can refute my feelings on the fantastic casting they’ve done on that show, frick off. You implying everyone who disagrees you is a racist doesn’t work anymore.

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it’s not as important as the themes and narrative.


Have you listened to pretty everyone involved in this project? That’s my issue above all else, because they’re failing there miserably.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:18 am to
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They’re fricking around and finding out with Marvel and Disney writ large.



This.

You hands laugh. We will have the last laugh. Some of you are more interested in pissing off Tolkien and lord of the rings fans than to get an actual good tv show.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:18 am to
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You spent the past 3 pages saying, not implying, that everyone who disagrees with your opinion isn't a fan, while implying they're an idiot unworthy of an opinion.


I’ll buy that they’re fans of the movies, but not the books. Tolkien fans have a way of speaking where you can tell pretty easily if they actually are fans of the books or not.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:26 am
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:20 am to
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Tell me why exactly your upset about the black actors then?


Don’t even argue with this. It’s getting to be like pro sports. The original sports fans don’t want that shite in sports but the the woke generation who’s never watched a sports game now are the loudest people in that room
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:25 am to
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Don’t even argue with this. It’s getting to be like pro sports. The original sports fans don’t want that shite in sports but the the woke generation who’s never watched a sports game now are the loudest people in that room


But he can’t explain to me why me being slightly perturbed on the casting of this is a problem when I’d be much more upset if they did a white cast with live action Avatar. It’s an apples to apples comparison and he has no retort to it.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:26 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78298 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:26 am to
Again, you’re argument that it’s bad is based on people who think it’s good not being “true” or “real” fans.

But also isn’t Sauran supposed to be attractive when he appears as Annatar to the elves?

I am Not going to let someone else make my mind up for me. Not a Amazon panel, not a nerd with a YouTube channel and a wall of action figures.

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You can not refute my point on the live action Avatar: The Last Airbender which is another high fantasy series with a similar budget that will be released in the next few months but was appropriately cast with an entirely asian and indigenous cast. Not a single white person on the cast and I’d be much more upset if they did that than have a black elf.


“I’m not racist, see I liked When People ply their own race!”

If I called You racist it’s because you were being racist. I said Dogmatic petty and shallow At best

But you still can’t tell me what themes the black characters ruin for you
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:27 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17049 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:29 am to
They should have never made the Hobbit into 3 movies. I am not feeling this one at all.
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