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re: Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power trailers (updated with new comic con trailer)
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:20 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:20 pm to SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:25 pm to OMLandshark
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Was he from Wakanda, dickhead?
Is that what he said, racist bitch?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:34 pm to SammyTiger
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I think His reason for writing are one thing and how people enjoy his works are another. No one has adopted it as Britain’s Mythology. In fact Britain has its own mythology, it’s the Arthurian legends
Funny that you'd think Tolkien, a scholar, didn't already know this.
If you're not holding true to the creator's reason for his work, you're not respecting either.
You have much to learn.
Yes, out of place actors where they don't belong DO ruin it. Tolkien had the most extensive world building of his stories, and the folks you want to see in his stories did exist, but they did not play a part in his stories.
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I’ve seen a black actor play Macbeth who was famously a Scottish king and he was great.
I don't care. That's an entirely different discussion. A black actor n the role of a Scottish general? Take it up with Shakespear.
Also, I said I don't NEED to see a white character to see and enjoy Black Panther. You ignored my comment entirely.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:39 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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If you're not holding true to the creator's reason for his work, you're not respecting either.
That’s not true. You can respect peoples intent without finding it necessary to their work.
Kurt Cobajn never intended Nevermind to be popular but there it is.
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Yes, out of place actors where they don't belong DO ruin it. Tolkien had the most extensive world building of his stories, and the folks you want to see in his stories did exist, but they did not play a part in his stories.
Only for the very close minded. Is the only thing you like about the books that the characters are all white? What % would you attribute to that?
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I don't care. That's an entirely different discussion. A black actor n the role of a Scottish general? Take it up with Shakespear.
It’s the exact same discussion.even more so because the setting isn’t a mythological Scotland it’s actually medieval Scotland.
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Also, I said I don't NEED to see a white character to see and enjoy Black Panther. You ignored my comment entirely.
You say that without ever know whether you needed it or not.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:49 pm to SammyTiger
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You say that without ever know whether you needed it or not.
Bucky was a red herring. A sidenote. His presence in the movie was insignificant to the world building of Wakanda. I knew who Bucky was well before he randomly ended up in Wakanda. He could have just as easily been killed off by T'Challa and the story of Wakanda would be unchanged.
You sound very young.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:54 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
You sound like a racist dweeb.
I’ll take young.
But I’ll say this:
Doesn’t make you sound well educated.
I’ll take young.
But I’ll say this:
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Also, I said I don't NEED to see a white character to see and enjoy Black Panther. You ignored my comment entirely.
Doesn’t make you sound well educated.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:03 pm to SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:06 pm to SammyTiger
What about my comments here remotely makes me sound Racist.
Explain.
But here, what on Earth are you talking about?
Me: I don't NEED to see a white character to see and enjoy Black Panther. You ignored my comment entirely.
You: Doesn’t make you sound well educated.
What in the hell? To translate to your clearly unformed brain, I'm TELLING you I can enjoy Black Panther with OUT seeing a white guy on the screen. What's this have to do with how educated I am? Seriously, elaborate on that, if you can.
Explain.
But here, what on Earth are you talking about?
Me: I don't NEED to see a white character to see and enjoy Black Panther. You ignored my comment entirely.
You: Doesn’t make you sound well educated.
What in the hell? To translate to your clearly unformed brain, I'm TELLING you I can enjoy Black Panther with OUT seeing a white guy on the screen. What's this have to do with how educated I am? Seriously, elaborate on that, if you can.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:13 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:13 pm to OMLandshark
Your upset you see black people in your all white land.
Don’t really have to stretch the meaning of racist to encompass that.
Don’t really have to stretch the meaning of racist to encompass that.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:18 pm to SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:21 pm to SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:25 pm to SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:35 pm to OMLandshark
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Would the Coens argue that MacBeth was actually black in real life, or would they say they’re going with a stylized fictional interpretation and hired Denzel Washington because he’s one of the best living actors? I feel relatively confident it would be the later.
Say this over and over again and MAYBE you’ll get why you look racist arguing black people will ruin LOTR.
You can still tell stories about the struggle of good and the corrupting influence of power and make statements of the effect of technology on nature with black actors.
Just like a black Macbeth can still relate the themes of Macbeth.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:38 pm to OMLandshark
“I’m not racist I just Don’t want black people in my fantasy world!!!!!!”
You’re a fricking Child
You’re a fricking Child
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:40 pm to SammyTiger
This could be the worst thread that’s ever been on this board…think about what that is saying.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:42 pm to SammyTiger
More on the nonsense that 'Britian has its mythology '. 
“Do not laugh! But once upon a time (my crest has long since fallen) I had a mind to make a body of more or less connected legend, ranging from the large and cosmogonic, to the level of romantic fairy-story – the larger founded on the lesser in contact with the earth, the lesser drawing splendour from the vast backcloths – which I could dedicate simply to: to England; to my country. It should possess the tone and quality that I desired, somewhat cool and clear, be redolent of our ‘air’ (the clime and soil of the North West, meaning Britain and the hither parts of Europe; not Italy or the Aegean, still less the East), and, while possessing (if I could achieve it) the fair elusive beauty that some call Celtic (though it is rarely found in genuine ancient Celtic things), it should be ‘high’, purged of the gross, and fit for the more adult mind of a land long now steeped in poetry. I would draw some of the great tales in fullness, and leave many only placed in the scheme, and sketched. The cycles should be linked to a majestic whole, and yet leave scope for other minds and hands, wielding paint and music and drama. Absurd.’ (Letters, 144-145) - J.R.R. Tolkien
It was a running concept Tolkien had, much like the Finnish Kalevala, or Beowulf, whose author is unknown.
Point is, there's an almost unlimited number of tales and epics from all sorts of people, lost in time or poorly preserved, which Tolkien wanted to pay homage to.
Morte d'Arthur is just ONE story. Doesn't come close to capturing the full history or tapestry that is England, and all those who took part in its forming.
“Do not laugh! But once upon a time (my crest has long since fallen) I had a mind to make a body of more or less connected legend, ranging from the large and cosmogonic, to the level of romantic fairy-story – the larger founded on the lesser in contact with the earth, the lesser drawing splendour from the vast backcloths – which I could dedicate simply to: to England; to my country. It should possess the tone and quality that I desired, somewhat cool and clear, be redolent of our ‘air’ (the clime and soil of the North West, meaning Britain and the hither parts of Europe; not Italy or the Aegean, still less the East), and, while possessing (if I could achieve it) the fair elusive beauty that some call Celtic (though it is rarely found in genuine ancient Celtic things), it should be ‘high’, purged of the gross, and fit for the more adult mind of a land long now steeped in poetry. I would draw some of the great tales in fullness, and leave many only placed in the scheme, and sketched. The cycles should be linked to a majestic whole, and yet leave scope for other minds and hands, wielding paint and music and drama. Absurd.’ (Letters, 144-145) - J.R.R. Tolkien
It was a running concept Tolkien had, much like the Finnish Kalevala, or Beowulf, whose author is unknown.
Point is, there's an almost unlimited number of tales and epics from all sorts of people, lost in time or poorly preserved, which Tolkien wanted to pay homage to.
Morte d'Arthur is just ONE story. Doesn't come close to capturing the full history or tapestry that is England, and all those who took part in its forming.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:45 pm to SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:46 pm to SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:47 pm to OMLandshark
To say anyone could randomly interject black hobbits, dwarves or elves into pre-existing peoples not only disrespects the source material, but also cheapens what it means to be black. 
These idiots don't even understand what they're fighting for!!
These idiots don't even understand what they're fighting for!!
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