re: Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power trailers (updated with new comic con trailer)

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I think His reason for writing are one thing and how people enjoy his works are another. No one has adopted it as Britain’s Mythology. In fact Britain has its own mythology, it’s the Arthurian legends

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Funny that you'd think Tolkien, a scholar, didn't already know this.

If you're not holding true to the creator's reason for his work, you're not respecting either.

You have much to learn.

Yes, out of place actors where they don't belong DO ruin it. Tolkien had the most extensive world building of his stories, and the folks you want to see in his stories did exist, but they did not play a part in his stories.

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I’ve seen a black actor play Macbeth who was famously a Scottish king and he was great.

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I don't care. That's an entirely different discussion. A black actor n the role of a Scottish general? Take it up with Shakespear.


Also, I said I don't NEED to see a white character to see and enjoy Black Panther. You ignored my comment entirely.

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You say that without ever know whether you needed it or not.

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Bucky was a red herring. A sidenote. His presence in the movie was insignificant to the world building of Wakanda. I knew who Bucky was well before he randomly ended up in Wakanda. He could have just as easily been killed off by T'Challa and the story of Wakanda would be unchanged.

You sound very young.

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Is that what he said, racist bitch?

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You’ve made that term meaningless. “Either agree with everything I say and do, or you’re a racist.” Go frick yourself, you woke pussy.

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Funny that you'd think Tolkien, a scholar, didn't already know this.

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Again, each and every post he proves again and again that he has not read the books. You’re not fooling anyone. Sammy just come out and say you haven’t read the books, you lying bitch.

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Yes, out of place actors where they don't belong DO ruin it. Tolkien had the most extensive world building of his stories, and the folks you want to see in his stories did exist, but they did not play a part in his stories.

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He has the single most extensively built world in all of fictional history. But somehow Sammy knows better than Tolkien himself and thinks that just because Tolkien just didn’t explicitly say something he can just add it in there and then call you a racist if you’re against it.

Hey Sammy, how about we put the Millennium Falcon at the War of the Last Alliance? Now Tolkien didn’t explicitly say that the Millennium Falcon didn’t show up, and Star Wars takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, so maybe the Millennium Falcon finally made it here for that battle. Maybe Tolkien just didn’t know about it. He also didn’t explicitly say that Celebrimbor had a half elf trans daughter fighting in the battle, so let’s just add that in there and if you disagree you’re a transphobe. Sorry Tolkien couldn’t account for how batshit insane society would get after his death.

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I don't care. That's an entirely different discussion. A black actor n the role of a Scottish general? Take it up with Shakespear.

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Would the Coens argue that MacBeth was actually black in real life, or would they say they’re going with a stylized fictional interpretation and hired Denzel Washington because he’s one of the best living actors? I feel relatively confident it would be the later.

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You sound like a racist dweeb.

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Doesn’t make you sound well educated.

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There it is again. I guarantee you look like Gage from this Beavis and Butthead clip where you’re the one who is the actual racist and claim to speak for minorities when all you are is a holier than thou judgemental cunt looking for brownie points: Beavis and Butthead discover white privilege

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Would the Coens argue that MacBeth was actually black in real life, or would they say they’re going with a stylized fictional interpretation and hired Denzel Washington because he’s one of the best living actors? I feel relatively confident it would be the later.

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Say this over and over again and MAYBE you’ll get why you look racist arguing black people will ruin LOTR.

You can still tell stories about the struggle of good and the corrupting influence of power and make statements of the effect of technology on nature with black actors.

Just like a black Macbeth can still relate the themes of Macbeth.

This could be the worst thread that’s ever been on this board…think about what that is saying.

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Say this over and over again and MAYBE you’ll get why you look racist arguing black people will ruin LOTR.

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No, you are arguing they were actually there. While I doubt it by say 90%, I’ve conceded there’s a slight possibility that there may have been black elves but they are completely unaccounted for and were not in the Undying Lands by the time of the Destruction of the Two Trees (not that you know what that is).

But black dwarves and hobbits, absolutely not. We have a more clear line lineology with them and it’s not a remote possibility. Dwarves come from under the mountains and their clans are all accounted for. Hobbits come from the Anduin Valley, not the Shire as you probably think.

It’s not possible, but when I point that out, you just insult anyone as a racist. I am not and would sue you for it if you slandered me in real life as such and directly affected my life. But you couldn’t sue me for calling you a lying cunt which you are.

To say anyone could randomly interject black hobbits, dwarves or elves into pre-existing peoples not only disrespects the source material, but also cheapens what it means to be black.

These idiots don't even understand what they're fighting for!!