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Looming Crew Strike nationwide

Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:50 pm
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:50 pm
things are heating up and there could be an unprecedented walk out of crew in the country, which will halt all TV and Film production.

Will be interesting to see if it happens and if so .. for how long.

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Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:57 pm to
You hate to see it
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58065 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:16 pm to
I 100% support them. It's obviously a little different here in Texas where most of us aren't union but I can't even count how many times I've been on a shoot that not only went over the 12 hours but had us stuck there striking the set for another 3-4 hours only to be denied overtime with a "we'll hire you for another gig down the road to make up for it" line where they of course pull the same shite. Then anyone who challenges it magically never gets hired again. If I didn't have other sources of income and wasn't good friends w/so many people I work with I'd have quit doing commercial production a long time ago. Of course now that I have a baby I probably will have to b/c it's nuts how you can be set to work from 5am to 5pm yet still be stuck there until midnight b/c some dickhead creative wants to rewrite the commercial midway through. Those frickers are always last to set and first to leave too.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 11:22 pm
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:26 pm to
commercial production is brutal, but on union spots the pay is generally really good. But I hear you. The long hours and turnarounds don't always make it worth it. Especially for the crew doing real work - painting, plastering, rigging lights, building the sets and on and on.

Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:05 am to
It is hard to argue with their main point, when they originally negotiated rates they gave streaming service a discount because, at the time, it was just starting out.

I'd say streaming services aren't little start ups any more. The original contract is up, they'd be fools to not get their fair pay from an established media source now.

Of course, this being big business, I could totally see the media dragging this out for months... costing themselves billions to save a few million.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:24 am to
For the left-coast liberals who advocate for wealth redistribution across the board, maybe they should start within their own trade. The film industry pays the talent millions while the crew members (who are critical to production btw) get paid barely over minimum wage. Why don't they start by paying crews more, and actors less?

This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 8:25 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61239 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:30 am to
Oh well, good thing their bosses support the unions, so they should be elated this is happening.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 8:32 am
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20997 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:45 am to
quote:

left-coast liberals who advocate for wealth redistribution


This is not they advocate for other people's wealth to be redistributed. Not theirs.
Posted by HamCandy
Team Meat
Member since Dec 2008
890 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:01 am to
Good friend of mine works in NYC in the film industry, she was approved for a week and half off in the middle of shooting a TV show to attend HER wedding and honeymoon. Early in production her immediate superior took another job they brought in a new supervisor who denied her the time off.... she basically had to quit the show bc of concerns of not being hired for a future show. My point is that its not always the directors but actual union employee supervisors who don't look after the production crews under them.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:18 am to
Rates are at all time highs, not lows. Entry level positions might be close to minimum wage, but again it’s the entry level PAs.

I agree that hours can be brutal, but it’s not all this sob story being painted. It’s also part of what you get into when taking the job. Do you see oil and gas baws crying about 3 on, 1 offs? They know what they’re signing up for.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

They know what they’re signing up for.




Yep. And with their contract up for renegotiation and streaming being a massive hit they want more money.

Make what the market will bear. If you are making less than the market value of your labor and happy about it then you are a GD moron. Get your money. The company is getting their money. Get yours.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12046 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Make what the market will bear.


again. rates are literally at an all time high for heads of departments.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

You hate to see it


I always forget how much the people here hate movies.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:44 pm to
the living wage thing is a bit overblown i must say .. part of my job is building budgets and the lowest paid member of the construction dept makes $25 an hour and carpenters close to $30.

A good painter will make over $40 ... a set designer makes $50 + easy.

But in a sense you know what you signed up for if you work in TV. Films don't usually work such brutal hours. And personally .. my role is not one that is on set much thankfully.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22763 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 12:31 am to
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it's nuts how you can be set to work from 5am to 5pm yet still be stuck there until midnight b/c some dickhead creative wants to rewrite the commercial midway through. Those frickers are always last to set and first to leave too.


I've never understood how turnaround time works in the film industry. Does the crew have to show back up at 5 am if they work you til midnight after a 16-18 hour day? How do they expect you to be nearly as productive the next day. It seems extremely counter productive and terrible for set morale, no?

Are there not union guidelines on length of workdays, turnaround, etc?? These are basic union parameters in many other industries. How is not in tv/movie production?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63313 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 1:04 am to
Working below the line is just a miserable experience.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 2:16 am to
That’s a ridiculous statement …. Please share the studio credits you have as a below the line employee that were so horrible
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63313 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 10:18 am to
I went to film school and spent time on studio sets (with Oscar-winning filmmakers with positive reputations) as well as indie films. I've also made a few features and shorts and am friends with many involved with filmmaking at all levels. Commonalities spring from their shared experiences. I made a decision early on to not pursue the crew life. In general, far too many people treat others in nasty, backstabbing fashion. The hours are absolutely brutal, drugs and affairs run rampant, and broken families seem more the norm than the exception. Some of it is due to the nature of film production. Unless someone has a serious passion for film and a plan b, I would never recommend it for the layperson.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 10:53 am to
As I suspected - you haven’t really worked on anything and are spouting nonsense about affairs and drugs now.

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