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re: Looks like Disney might be coming to grips with what they have done to the SW franchise

Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:03 pm to
There is no place for a woman in the cockpit of a Y-wing. End of Discussion.
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:20 pm to
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Wouldn't had made a difference when they released it tbh



Of course it would have made a difference. You don't think going up against another Robin Hood movie and Mary Queen of Scots is the same as going against Infinity War and Deadpool 2, do you?

The extra time also gives them a chance to fix production and marketing issues.
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:26 pm to
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Of course it would have made a difference. You don't think going up against another Robin Hood movie and Mary Queen of Scots is the same as going against Infinity War and Deadpool 2, do you? 

The extra time also gives them a chance to fix production and marketing issues


How much more? 50 mil? 100 mil?
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:28 pm to
If tlj weren’t so Terrible, I would have seen solo by now
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:33 pm to
Probably $500M+ easy with an early/mid December release. Maybe more considering the competition at that time.
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:39 pm to
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Probably $500M+ easy with an early/mid December release. Maybe more considering the competition at that time.


Yikes. Didn't expect that level of delusion
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:41 pm to
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Yikes. Didn't expect that level of delusion


Go ahead and explain how releasing against Robin Hood is the same as releasing against Infinity War and Deadpool 2.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:03 pm to
Yeah. He seriously thinks IW and Deadpool are going to take 300 million away from Solo. The combined total of both while Solo has been out won’t reach that.
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:15 pm to
Your math skills...

Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:23 pm to
It’s kind of amazing how TLJ killed my Star Wars fandom. I wasn’t some huge Star Wars nerd, but I was fan. Now I just don’t really even care how the new trilogy ends. Unless the one-off movies have incredible reviews & word of mouth, I probably won’t be wasting my time either. What Rian Johnson did was that bad.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:23 pm to
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Yeah. He seriously thinks IW and Deadpool are going to take 300 million away from Solo. The combined total of both while Solo has been out won’t reach that.
Deadpool cleaned up and it opened a week closer to IW. . .and it had no problem cleaning up while Solo was out.

Domestically it has made over $100 million more than Solo.

bloated
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:26 pm to
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It’s kind of amazing how TLJ killed my Star Wars fandom. I wasn’t some huge Star Wars nerd, but I was fan. Now I just don’t really even care how the new trilogy ends. Unless the one-off movies have incredible reviews & word of mouth, I probably won’t be wasting my time either. What Rian Johnson did was that bad.


You are a misogynist and a racist

Sincerely,

Argonaut



But seriously, I am a HUGE SW nerd, and TLJ exorcised all of that shite from me.

It actually made the OT kinda shitty, when you consider how big a bitch Solo and Luke become.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:32 pm to
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Deadpool cleaned up and it opened a week closer to IW. . .and it had no problem cleaning up while Solo was out.

Domestically it has made over $100 million more than Solo.
Solo is tracking for 205 domestic total, if that. No way it would get 300 more in December. Deadpool has made 136 since Solo opened and IW has made 51. Even if every single one of those tickets went to Solo along with the rest of their take through the rest of their runs, it wouldn’t get to 500.

In other words, competition isn’t what’s keeping this from a big number. Time of year isn’t either since May has had more 1 billion months than any other month, this year included.

I don’t know what else they could have done to fix the production since they already “fixed” it once. Stalling for more fixes would cost it more money without the return. So it would lose even more money.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:37 pm to
If TLJ had left SW fans excited, they would have beaten a path to the theater for Solo, irrespective of the month or hour.

Anyone suggesting otherwise is just an apologist.

SW is a franchise that relies on it's core fans.

TLJ had every real SW fan feeling that the franchise was on the wrong track. Many felt it had too much SJW hamfisted preaching.

Fast forward to Solo. Fans feeling tentative about it. Then the producers talking about making one of the manliest characters in the galaxy a fig.

Whether it was reflected in the movie or not, it made fans feel like KK was going to shite on another iconic character.

They stayed home.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:12 pm to
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You are a misogynist and a racist

Sincerely,

Argonaut


You're a liar. Stop being a liar.
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:13 pm to


I get it now. For some reason, you think foreign money doesn't spend the same. Well...it does.
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:14 pm to
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You have obviously not been paying the slightest bit of attention to how many people go to Disney or how much they pay. Nor have you ever bothered to note how every character must meet VERY high standards and has been this way since the parks were created. You’ve never actually been to WDW have you?


I have been a few times actually, and yes I know how much people spend and how busy the parks are (I don’t deny Star Wars Land is gonna bring in mega crowds, that’s a given) & Of course the ‘characters’ are highly themed, im talking about the lowly paid college interns that make up a majority of their regular staff. Plus the current labor battle causing possible long term employee moral issues.

You really think middle to upper class families are gonna spend $1,000 per person/per night for a very niche experience @ the Star Wars hotel vs the Luxury of the Grand Floridian or Polynesian, etc... ? When the wife/mom is booking the trip, she sure as hell won’t wanna be around a bunch of nerds in robes holding a plastic sword.

SW $1000 per person per night

Disney Deluxe Resorts Rack Rate
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:27 pm to
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You really think middle to upper class families are gonna spend $1,000 per person/per night for a very niche experience @ the Star Wars hotel
Yes. People already pay upwards of that at some of the larger DVC villas.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:28 pm to
I was a massive Star Wars fan. Owned multiple copies of the original trilogy, had action figures, micro machines, all that shite as a kid. I even liked the prequels. I was even willing to overlook TFA's banality.

TLJ killed it for me. Yeah, I've learned to appreciate other less fantastical sci-fi more, but I still loved the star wars universe.

Loved.

Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy having any control over this franchise is like giving a daycare to Casey Anthony and Jerry Sandusky.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:32 pm to
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Don't let reading get in the way of your rant.


How is that a rant?

All we see is article after article that Star Wars is failing because the world is full of bad Star Wars fans.

These same Star Wars fans who kept it alive and now are expected to just go along without whatever crap comes...they can't have an opinion? They can't complain?

You didn't see movie reviewers and news outlets complaining that people hated Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and because so they were misogynistic or racists. If a movie sucks it sucks. It's the article writers who are bringing agenda into this...not simply toxic fans...as if they should be sheep to Disney's nonsense. They have an opinion and spent 30-40 years cultivating that opinion.

The core audience? What happened to Luke and how the Star Wars re-franchise at Disney is a perfect example of what is going on.

They want the Star Wars fans from yesterday to retire to the pasture...and it's been a middle finger to the so-called "toxic fans" that made Star Wars survive from the end of Jedi to the prequels. Disney seems intent on biting off the hand that once fed them.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 9:37 pm
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