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Looks like Disney might be coming to grips with what they have done to the SW franchise
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:59 am
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:59 am
In response to some random on Twitter
Solo director, Ron Howard answered with this
I think at first they were in full denial of the Last Jedi backlash. With Ron Howard responding to a random tweet, it means that they are searching for the reasons, and have accepted that TLJ is reason #1. And are trying to mitigate the disaster for Solo and other SW related films by trying to unlink them from TLJ
I do hope this means they are taking the message to heart, and going to GREATLY repair the damage done by TLJ in Episode 9. They certainly have a lot riding on it, looking at the Solo box office. It will absolutely kill their theme park makeover in Florida, if they don't. Not to mention the shelving of future film projects
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I've been reading so many theories as to why 'Solo' hasn't been doing so well at the box office - sad to say, some SW fans are snubbing Solo b/c they're still upset over Last Jedi. If so, they're missing out & punishing a good film for something not its fault. #StarWars #Solo
Solo director, Ron Howard answered with this
quote:
I’m proud of #SoloAStarWarsStory and the cast & crew worked hard to give fans a fun new addition. As a director I feel badly when people who I believe (& exit polls show) will very likely enjoy a movie... don’t see it on a big screen w/great sound.
I think at first they were in full denial of the Last Jedi backlash. With Ron Howard responding to a random tweet, it means that they are searching for the reasons, and have accepted that TLJ is reason #1. And are trying to mitigate the disaster for Solo and other SW related films by trying to unlink them from TLJ
I do hope this means they are taking the message to heart, and going to GREATLY repair the damage done by TLJ in Episode 9. They certainly have a lot riding on it, looking at the Solo box office. It will absolutely kill their theme park makeover in Florida, if they don't. Not to mention the shelving of future film projects
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:40 am to League Champs
Word on the street is Kathleen Kennedy will be out at Lucasfilm come September (*fingers crossed*), she done messed with Disney's cash cow for the last time.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:50 am to TigerEyes1970
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Word on the street is Kathleen Kennedy will be out at Lucasfilm come September (*fingers crossed*), she done messed with Disney's cash cow for the last time.
The devil may work hard, but Mickey Mouse works harder.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 3:10 am to pevetohead
I think Ron Howard wants to make it known that Solo's box office failure isn't his fault and he's correct.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 3:42 am to League Champs
All disney had to was to look at this board for both movies.
TLJ was so shitty people flooded this board with thread after thread full of meltdown after meltdown.
Solo was a pretty good movie and the discussion was pretty much contained to like 4 or 5 threads over the last few weeks.
TLJ was so shitty people flooded this board with thread after thread full of meltdown after meltdown.
Solo was a pretty good movie and the discussion was pretty much contained to like 4 or 5 threads over the last few weeks.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 5:13 am to Sentrius
It’s no secret or mystery. TLJ pissed a lot of people off with how bad it was for many reasons that are all over the Internet. The only response to those people are that they are women hating racist. Movies keep being made.
The product is not that good and everything is a mess. I love Star Wars. Love it! I grew up with it. It’s part of my history. I see lots of movies at the theater. I am the target audience. But I won’t see anymore until they fix whatever is broken. Simple as that.
The product is not that good and everything is a mess. I love Star Wars. Love it! I grew up with it. It’s part of my history. I see lots of movies at the theater. I am the target audience. But I won’t see anymore until they fix whatever is broken. Simple as that.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 6:11 am to Suntiger
quote:I think a big part of it was the way they reacted to people's reaction. Especially Rian Johnson. He showed such contempt for the fans of the franchise he'd been handed to go with the contempt he showed for the source material. The tone was so condescending like we were are stupid, immature, or evil for not liking that shite pile. I maybe could abide a mistake in one movie, but the obstinate defiance that we the fans were wrong for not liking it was just too much.
It’s no secret or mystery. TLJ pissed a lot of people off with how bad it was for many reasons that are all over the Internet.
FWIW I enjoyed Solo a lot. Flawed movie but fun heist film.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 6:19 am to League Champs
From what i have heard, Solo is a flawed movie that turned out much better than it had any right to be considering the issues it had. I never had any intention of seeing it in theaters. Not because of TLJ or because of any SJW issue.
I was never going to waste my money in theaters because
- Hans back story is not one that needed telling on screen.
- There was no way that any actor (much less the schmuck that ended up getting the part) could do that role the justice it deserved.
-It's an origin story with all the limitations that come with it. Predetermined plot points and character meet ups. No stakes because all the familiar faces have to survive. The whole concept is very paint by numbers.
Given the praise that i have heard about it i will probably give it a watch once it hits Netflix or HBO, but i'm not going out of my way to see it
I was never going to waste my money in theaters because
- Hans back story is not one that needed telling on screen.
- There was no way that any actor (much less the schmuck that ended up getting the part) could do that role the justice it deserved.
-It's an origin story with all the limitations that come with it. Predetermined plot points and character meet ups. No stakes because all the familiar faces have to survive. The whole concept is very paint by numbers.
Given the praise that i have heard about it i will probably give it a watch once it hits Netflix or HBO, but i'm not going out of my way to see it
Posted on 6/11/18 at 6:52 am to bcoop199
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I think Ron Howard wants to make it known that Solo's box office failure isn't his fault and he's correct.
Agreed. I have no doubt that Solo is better than TLJ. I'm willing to bet the only reason this film isn't a dumpster fire is because of him. This is nothing personal against him.
Kathleen Kennedy is why I'm boycotting it. The direction she wants to take the Star Wars franchise is toxic with SJW bullshite and nothing but spinoffs. She needs to fricking go (along with Johnson).
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 6:55 am
Posted on 6/11/18 at 7:24 am to League Champs
solo is just collateral damage.
Hopefully Disney learned not to insult your fans if they don’t like your film. It’s not a good strategy.
Hopefully Disney learned not to insult your fans if they don’t like your film. It’s not a good strategy.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:26 am to TigerEyes1970
That’s the only way to right the ship. Get someone in there that knows what’s best for the company but also knows what fans want.
She does neither for Disney. Hell, look at Feige. He looks out for Disney while being true to a singular vision and knows what fans want and has put out a successful product.
She does neither for Disney. Hell, look at Feige. He looks out for Disney while being true to a singular vision and knows what fans want and has put out a successful product.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:29 am to bcoop199
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I think Ron Howard wants to make it known that Solo's box office failure isn't his fault and he's correct.
As he should. He made a very enjoyable heist movie. I look forward to a Solo sequel.
I will let Stanley tell them what to do with Episode 9.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:39 am to League Champs
YT movie critics Kristian Harloff and Grace Randolph made compelling arguments that Kennedy probably shouldn't be totally removed from producing (multiple multi-billion dollar results and behind-the-scenes problem solver ex: Rogue One/Solo director issues that avoided becoming cinematic disasters)
...but rather just remove her completely from creative ( for allowing Ruin Johnson to ruin SW iconic characters, leading TFA/TLJ feminist/political agendas, & forced diversity input) and just give creative to someone like Dave Filoni who was a Lucas apprentice and "gets" the SW universe.
I wouldn't cry if she got the complete boot, but arguably she could still be useful on a leash.
...but rather just remove her completely from creative ( for allowing Ruin Johnson to ruin SW iconic characters, leading TFA/TLJ feminist/political agendas, & forced diversity input) and just give creative to someone like Dave Filoni who was a Lucas apprentice and "gets" the SW universe.
I wouldn't cry if she got the complete boot, but arguably she could still be useful on a leash.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:41 am to OMLandshark
Kennedy is supposed to be a wizard producer.
If that is true, why has the production of 2/4 new movies had a train wreck production and why was Rian Johnson allowed to single handedly throw out the plans for the new trilogy and make his own movie that has scarred the franchise forever?
She gone.
If that is true, why has the production of 2/4 new movies had a train wreck production and why was Rian Johnson allowed to single handedly throw out the plans for the new trilogy and make his own movie that has scarred the franchise forever?
She gone.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:55 am to League Champs
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:57 am to Scoop
Rian wasn't the only person patronizing the audience who didn't like TLJ. When 90% of critics come out and say it's one of the best Star Wars films then get called hacks because it most certainly wasn't, they all went on the defensive using the same tone: You are just a misogynistic racist.
So every fan that expressed his or her displeasure openly was insulted and put into that box. Why would that fan want to be put through that again? They were told they were wrong and that this is how Star Wars is going to be from now on so deal with it! Well, those people just won't go see that kind of (bad) product. Not because of a boycott or racism or sexism, but because people don't want to see bad movies. It's that simple.
So every fan that expressed his or her displeasure openly was insulted and put into that box. Why would that fan want to be put through that again? They were told they were wrong and that this is how Star Wars is going to be from now on so deal with it! Well, those people just won't go see that kind of (bad) product. Not because of a boycott or racism or sexism, but because people don't want to see bad movies. It's that simple.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:58 am to Argonaut
That's an editorial. A single person's (a screenwriter who has to keep people like KK happy) opinion worth no more or less than anyone else's.
And this is all you need to know about it:
And he lies:
And this is all you need to know about it:
quote:He's doubling down on the whole problem.
This is all part of a larger bigoted backlash of complaints against Star Wars for incorporating people of color and other types of diversity into the previously predominantly white male storytelling.
And he lies:
quote:The 3 "critically successful" movies were not the same 3 that got "A Grades" from audiences. TLJ was mostly disliked, hence where we are. And it wasn't largely disliked because of sexism or racism. It was dislike because it was a bad movie with a bad plot and bad storytelling over a bad premise and dialogue and a pointless subplot. Very little was objectively enjoyable with so many flaws.
Despite the constant refrain of negativity directed at Kathleen Kennedy, Lucasfilm delivered three critically successful Star Wars pictures in three back-to-back years, earning A grades from audiences and a combined $4.4+ billion in global box office.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 9:06 am
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:58 am to Scoop
They won't fire her.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 9:03 am to ell_13
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That's an editorial.
No shite. Thanks for the breaking news...
quote:
A single person's
Wrong. There are numerous people who share these opinions.
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And this is all you need to know about it:
Thanks for confirming that you didn't read the article.
Next.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 9:08 am to Argonaut
quote:You linked one. It's his opinion. That's what an editorial is. Let's not divert this, please. This isn't a news story backed by Forbes is all I'm saying.
Wrong. There are numerous people who share these opinions.
quote:By quoting the article, I obviously didn't read it? Another dumbass conclusion from Alternaut.
Thanks for confirming that you didn't read the article.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 9:09 am
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