re: Looks like Disney might be coming to grips with what they have done to the SW franchise

Collider put out a pretty solid podcast discussing this and the fan base divide the other day, it’s called « Can The Star Wars Fanbase Reunite? ». Features people who both like and dislike TLJ and where they are going with SW. was a very balanced discussion.

It wouldn't surprise me to discover that the "Everybody gets a trophy" phenomenon has robbed an entire generation of mental preparedness for when things don't go their way.

It would explain a lot - from Trump Derangement Syndrome to a lot of fringe freaking out about SW. (Both directions).

Young people today don't know how to lose/ accept that life will go on even though they didn't get the desired outcome.

Leave it. I responded to his points regarding SW. Not going to ruin the thread over whether or not a read an article I obviously did read. The thread is good. I want it to stay that way.

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The product is not that good and everything is a mess. I love Star Wars. Love it! I grew up with it. It’s part of my history. I see lots of movies at the theater. I am the target audience. But I won’t see anymore until they fix whatever is broken. Simple as that.

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It is broken and I have no plans to see Solo.

First we have a sequel to Jedi, then we have a prequel to A New Hope, then we have another sequel, now we have another prequel.

It's just all over the place, every film is stand-alone, even the so-called sequel to Force Awakens (whose name shall not be mentioned) disregarded everything in Force Awakens.

This whole franchise reboot feels like the scripts are being typed by a room full of 100 monkeys. There's no creative leadership...everyone is just doing what they want.

The fact that they didn't have a master plan outline for the sequel trilogy and follow a coherent storyline with likeable characters through the journey shows how disorganized Disney is and how bad Kathleen Kennedy is.

I imagine the next Star Wars installment will be produced by replicating this experiment on the infinite Monkey Theorum:

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In 2003, lecturers and students from the University of Plymouth MediaLab Arts course used a £2,000 grant from the Arts Council to study the literary output of real monkeys.

They left a computer keyboard in the enclosure of six Celebes crested macaques in Paignton Zoo in Devon in England for a month, with a radio link to broadcast the results on a website.

Not only did the monkeys produce nothing but five total pages largely consisting of the letter S, the lead male began by bashing the keyboard with a stone, and the monkeys continued by urinating and defecating on it.

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That's what Disney has done to the Star Wars franchise.

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not it isnt. especially to average fans who dont know any about Wookiee life debts

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We'll have to agree to disagree, there. Chewie was enslaved by the Empire, treated like a fighting dog. Han rescues him, and Wookiee code dictates that he is bound to Han for life. That was a concept that was introduced in Brian Daley's book series in the early 80s, but never formally acknowledged in the OT.

Han asks Chewbacca to look after Leia on Bespin as an extension of it, (which legitimizes their relationship to Chewie, as Han is basically telling him that she's family), but the phrase never shows up.

ETA - Even if Han isn't the one who busted them out of the pit, his "friends" are the ones who get them off the planet.

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Exctept for the whole dropping bombs in space, even though it has be retrospectively explained.

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Meh, a lot of things in Star Wars have to be retroactively explained. Like finishing the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.

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We'll have to agree to disagree, there. Chewie was enslaved by the Empire, treated like a fighting dog. Han rescues him, and Wookiee code dictates that he is bound to Han for life. That was a concept that was introduced in Brian Daley's book series in the early 80s, but never formally acknowledged in the OT.

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right so the average fan doesnt know about this life debt. I think they could have expounded on it.

I also think it was bad writing trying to make that scene similar to how Luke was fed to the creature in RotJ. Now if Han ran across a creature chained up and saved it, not to just save himself. i would recognize that more.

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And Star Wars fanboys who act like they get paid to defend SW online go along with it.

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We don't have fanboys here. Just trolls.

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You responded to me, sport.

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I responded to PowerTool.

Stop this. It has nothing to do with the OP.