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re: Kevin Smith: I'm Tired of People Overreacting to The Last Jedi
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:12 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:12 pm to Bench McElroy
Don't really care what Kevin Smith thinks. As soon as I saw FA, I knew this was going to happen. The Star Wars writers and producers had the easiest job in the world. A vast wealth of EU lore to rip off from, a low standard in terms of just needing to make a better movie than the prequels, and the massive disney warchest to do whatever the hell they wanted. Not only was it a boring hole-ridden plot, whenever they were presented with the choice to make the movie better or send a progressive political message, they chose politics. This movie was bad to begin with and will not age well compared to the original trilogy.
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:15 pm to Bench McElroy
I didn't like it because it didn't make sense, most of the characters' motivations defied even movie logic and it didn't have a point.
It also fricked up my childhood but this movie was so bad and disjointed that fact actually wouldn't make the top 5 of my complaints.
It also fricked up my childhood but this movie was so bad and disjointed that fact actually wouldn't make the top 5 of my complaints.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:17 pm to Josh Fenderman
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Smith is 100% right.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:23 pm to Bench McElroy
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He says many fans expected “The Last Jedi” to be heavily focused on Luke Skywalker following the cliffhanger at the end of “The Force Awakens.” E
No dumbass. Fans expected him to be a bigger feature in the movie but I don't think anybody would be complaining if he had the same amount of screen time and the movie was actually good. He has lost touch with reality.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:27 pm to Bench McElroy
I'm tired of people defending The last jedi
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:38 pm to JuiceTerry
I can get it if you hated The Force Awakens but you can't possibly like them both because the Last Jedi was a direct and not very subtle complete repudiation of TFA.
I have to imagine that Johnson was told that, yes, he had to use the same cast and characters and, no, he couldn't just make a completely different story so he tried to change as much as possible with the restrictions that he was given.
I have to imagine that Johnson was told that, yes, he had to use the same cast and characters and, no, he couldn't just make a completely different story so he tried to change as much as possible with the restrictions that he was given.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:49 pm to Walking the Earth
That makes sense to me.
I haven’t seen the movie, but it appears it didn’t work very well.
I haven’t seen the movie, but it appears it didn’t work very well.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:05 pm to JuiceTerry
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I'm tired of people defending The last jedi
I'm not even defending the movie. I don't have a problem with anyone liking or hating it. I think that even if you take the quality of the movie out of the equation, the resulting emotional overreaction is equivalent to the "Batman v Superman crowd, or the woman accusing Aziz Anzari of assault. A gross over reaction to a neutral incident which has left some emotionally compromised. Almost all have no perspective in their outrage and internet flagellation. It's turned into collective hate porn and posse raising. It's like an insipid dye has been cast into the American bloodstream that it can't rid itself of. Social Media.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:26 pm to BigAppleTiger
You must be reading different media than I am. The only place I've noticed any outrage is a movie board devoted to talking about the quality of motion pictures.
I know some people linked accusations of sexism, racism, misogyny etc on the part of those who don't like the movie but I think most people would just be happier if they stopped reading outlets that specialize in that type of outrage.
I know some people linked accusations of sexism, racism, misogyny etc on the part of those who don't like the movie but I think most people would just be happier if they stopped reading outlets that specialize in that type of outrage.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:47 pm to BigAppleTiger
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I'm not even defending the movie. I don't have a problem with anyone liking or hating it. I think that even if you take the quality of the movie out of the equation, the resulting emotional overreaction is equivalent to the "Batman v Superman crowd, or the woman accusing Aziz Anzari of assault. A gross over reaction to a neutral incident which has left some emotionally compromised. Almost all have no perspective in their outrage and internet flagellation. It's turned into collective hate porn and posse raising. It's like an insipid dye has been cast into the American bloodstream that it can't rid itself of. Social Media.
Good post
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:34 pm to BigAppleTiger
The rave critical reviews for TLJ deserved some backlash. Some people took it too far though.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:57 am to Byron Bojangles III
quote:So?
He's forgotten more about movies than we'll ever know
His opinion on a movie is still an opinion.
And his opinion on a film that he had no part in, is no more valid than any other.
Including yours
or mine
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:03 am to Bench McElroy
Kevin Smith is a full-on PC-loving, SJW, self-loathing, identity politics-driven, uber liberal.
If TLJ was simply 3 hours of Bruce Jenner becoming a tranny, he would call it a triumph of filmmaking.
If TLJ was simply 3 hours of Bruce Jenner becoming a tranny, he would call it a triumph of filmmaking.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:57 am to Bench McElroy
I grew up watching Star Wars and watch all of them when they are on TV (even the prequels). I just saw TLJ this past weekend. It was worth my money, but, unlike the previous movies, I just have no interest in seeing it again. It just wasn't a very good movie, much less a very good Star Wars movie.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:48 am to StringedInstruments
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the latest movie had Porgs
Why you gotta bring up the porgs. I like the porgs and will fight you IRL over the protection of them. Which Sonic are you closest too?
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:04 am to Bench McElroy
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:12 am to biglego
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I’m 37 and I enjoyed it
Me too. Saw it opening day and gave it a C-, really didnt like it much
Saw it again 2 weeks later after my expectations had died down and was really surprised how much i enjoyed it. Gave it a solid B after second viewing.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:02 am to DelU249
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I’m tired of bloggers
FIFY
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:35 am to Bench McElroy
I'm tired of people caring about what Kevin Smith says.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:47 am to Bench McElroy
Ah, the latest attempt to attack people who didn't care for The Last Jedi.
While some people have gone over the top in their reaction to the movie most of us are just saying that its a bad movie. I won't go into why I think this movie stunk on ice, there a few dozen threads on here already where people explain in great detail why it was a bad movie.
To Smith's credit he didn't label everyone who disliked TLJ as a bunch of racist, sexist bigots. That is what has my goat about all of this. I'm disappointed in the movie, but you know what? I made it through the prequels, I can make it through this.
I do not, however, care to be labeled as some sort of card carrying member of the KKK because I thought the Finn and Rose story added nothing to the film other then fluffing up the running time. Nor does saying that I found TLJ's portrayal of Luke to be distasteful make me a misogynistic monster somehow.
While some people have gone over the top in their reaction to the movie most of us are just saying that its a bad movie. I won't go into why I think this movie stunk on ice, there a few dozen threads on here already where people explain in great detail why it was a bad movie.
To Smith's credit he didn't label everyone who disliked TLJ as a bunch of racist, sexist bigots. That is what has my goat about all of this. I'm disappointed in the movie, but you know what? I made it through the prequels, I can make it through this.
I do not, however, care to be labeled as some sort of card carrying member of the KKK because I thought the Finn and Rose story added nothing to the film other then fluffing up the running time. Nor does saying that I found TLJ's portrayal of Luke to be distasteful make me a misogynistic monster somehow.
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