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Ken Burns Vietnam documentary
Posted on 6/9/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 5:28 pm
Just finished being watching the Ken Burns Vietnam documentary.
Loved his Civil War documentary, but I have to say, the Vietnam series is perhaps the best documentary I have ever seen.
Everything about this series is so well done..the footage, the interviews, the music.
If your a history buff and haven't seen it, check it out. It's currently on Netflix. Episode 5 was incredible.
Loved his Civil War documentary, but I have to say, the Vietnam series is perhaps the best documentary I have ever seen.
Everything about this series is so well done..the footage, the interviews, the music.
If your a history buff and haven't seen it, check it out. It's currently on Netflix. Episode 5 was incredible.
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 5:40 pm to midnight1961
It’s very good and by the way he’s about to release one on the history of country music. Looks awesome
Posted on 6/9/19 at 5:59 pm to midnight1961
Saw his Roosevelt documentary. Dude knows how to present American history.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:15 pm to NeverRains
Is this the multiverse?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:42 pm to midnight1961
It was very good.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:59 pm to midnight1961
Thoroughly enjoyed it. It was very well done. Pretty sobering. Its astonishing how long they drug the war out.
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 7:26 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Is this the multiverse?
Holy f*ck. What's going on?!
Posted on 6/9/19 at 7:44 pm to midnight1961
Very well done. I have read where lots of folks think Burns’ representation of American success on the battlefield was understated. Also that the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong interviews bordered on revisionist. So much to unpack during that era - you could almost do a 10 hour documentary, each, on the war itself, the political climate (primarily Johnson, McNamara, their staff, and transition to Nixon), and then the anti-war movement. Could throw one in for music of the era as well.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:58 pm to smelvis
There was actually stuff to get worked up about in the 70's.
No war since has been covered the way Vietnam was. It led the 6PM national news every night. Nearly everyone watched CBS because of Cronkite. We watched it every night. Not many choices with just three channels.
No war since has been covered the way Vietnam was. It led the 6PM national news every night. Nearly everyone watched CBS because of Cronkite. We watched it every night. Not many choices with just three channels.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 6:53 am to midnight1961
Photographers, video recorders, journalists need to be given a lot credit. Without them, there’d be just words.
I visited independence hall last year. Pretty cool walking about thinking about what took place 33 years prior.
War Remnant museum is a must in ho chi Minh city. It shows different view of the war. And the cruelty of war. The agent orange pictures of kids was gruesome.
I visited independence hall last year. Pretty cool walking about thinking about what took place 33 years prior.
War Remnant museum is a must in ho chi Minh city. It shows different view of the war. And the cruelty of war. The agent orange pictures of kids was gruesome.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:09 am to PeteRose
As an 80s kid who votes independent and wasn’t even alive during Vietnam, I don’t know how any American, regardless of political affiliation, can justify us being in that tragic war.
Such a shame and waste of lives
Such a shame and waste of lives
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:32 am to dallastiger55
It was a bad time in history. I think sometimes when you invest so much in such a war where so many people die and there’s so much pain involved, you really want it to mean something. And it sucks when you find out the truth and that’s hard to live with.
My parents rarely talk about the war. Even after the war, it was tough. Lots of poverty, hunger, and on top of that, we were on the wrong side so living under the communist regime sucks. They worked and saved and saved and kept their mouths shut for 10 years before having the right time to take a chance to flee.
But the good thing about an ugly event like the Vietnam war is that it’s gives us a chance to self reflect on all sides and learn from ourselves and our mistakes and forgive one another.
My parents rarely talk about the war. Even after the war, it was tough. Lots of poverty, hunger, and on top of that, we were on the wrong side so living under the communist regime sucks. They worked and saved and saved and kept their mouths shut for 10 years before having the right time to take a chance to flee.
But the good thing about an ugly event like the Vietnam war is that it’s gives us a chance to self reflect on all sides and learn from ourselves and our mistakes and forgive one another.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:44 am to PeteRose
Curious to the people who downvote me and defend the war, what do you defend?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:52 am to dallastiger55
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:11 am to TexasTiger39
I was a kid during this time and the "Red Scare" was a big part of our daily lives. We were extremely limited from where we got our information from compared to the 80's-now. There was no "CNN". Newspapers and the evening news was it.
I remember "fallout shelter" signs being all over the place incase of a Nuclear War. (like they would help). People were terrified of the possibility of Nuclear War...Remember, Vietnam happen just a short period after the Cuban Missile Crisis and the fear of Communism spreading was real.
As a child, when the "Emergency Broadcasting Network" would have a test, the first thing we were thinking was a nuclear attack and not bad weather.
You will never truly be able to grasp what it was like to live during these times by reading a book. It's one this to be scared to death for real of the end of the world and to read that people were scared in a book.
I remember "fallout shelter" signs being all over the place incase of a Nuclear War. (like they would help). People were terrified of the possibility of Nuclear War...Remember, Vietnam happen just a short period after the Cuban Missile Crisis and the fear of Communism spreading was real.
As a child, when the "Emergency Broadcasting Network" would have a test, the first thing we were thinking was a nuclear attack and not bad weather.
You will never truly be able to grasp what it was like to live during these times by reading a book. It's one this to be scared to death for real of the end of the world and to read that people were scared in a book.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:38 am to dallastiger55
People these days forget that, from its inception, communism had been (and continues to be) an international movement. There’s a reason that their anthem was called the “Internationale,” after all. Communists truly believe that the proletariat of the world is oppressed and must be freed by any means necessary. The Soviets, at least up through the end of the Stalinist era, saw themselves as the leading edge of the inevitable worldwide communist revolution, and they believed in helping that revolution come to fruition across the globe. There was real fear during the Cold War that, left unchecked, the Soviets would progressively come to dominate more and more of the world through overt and covert means. All US foreign policy of the time must be judged with this in mind. Whether or not you feel that fear was, ultimately, justified, is not particularly relevant to the question of whether or not we should have been involved. The fear itself was quite real, so the question instead should be, “Given that there was a legitimate and believable threat of communist expansion across the globe, should the US, as the only country on earth with sufficient power to stand up to the Soviets, act proactively to stem that threat, or should they just sit idly by and let communism spread unchecked?”
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:57 am to TexasTiger39
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Perhaps looking back one can say we never should have gotten into it, but we get into conflicts often based on perception, intelligence, and keeping our enemies in check.
History has not been kind to our decision to intervene in Vietnam.
European Communism was much more unified than Asian Communism and we failed to recognize it.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:07 am to dallastiger55
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Curious to the people who downvote me and defend the war, what do you defend?
You said you can’t see how anyone could defend the war. It’s easy to say that now. But if you put yourself back in that day in age, it was much different.
Vietnam was closer to WWII than we are to 9/11 right now. The threat of communism and another World War was real.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:28 am to kciDAtaE
i understand and i totally get it and how its different if you live during it
i guess i should have clarified and said "after being there for years and its clear as day we are pissing in the wind, its ridiculous we didnt cut out losses"
i guess i should have clarified and said "after being there for years and its clear as day we are pissing in the wind, its ridiculous we didnt cut out losses"
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:34 am to dallastiger55
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i understand and i totally get it and how its different if you live during it
i guess i should have clarified and said "after being there for years and its clear as day we are pissing in the wind, its ridiculous we didnt cut out losses"
Well, there is a lot of discussion about how the war was managed. LBJ had "great" people like Westmoreland and the "rules of engagement" that really handcuffed what our forces could do.
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