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Judas and the Black Messiah

Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:59 pm
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:59 pm
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Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:10 pm to
You sure you want to do this here?
Posted by TomBuchanan
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:40 pm to
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Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:50 pm to
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I can't find a topic on it. Any thought?


There was a thread on it last week, it's on page 3. Don't really know anything about it. But will probably give it a shot at some point.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51308 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:00 am to
I watched it.

Very solid movie. I really enjoyed it. Daniel Kaluuya, LaKieth Stanfield, and Jesse Plemons all shine.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
parts unknown
Member since Feb 2009
4510 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:09 am to
I watched it over the weekend and thought it was very good. For those interested you only have like 30 days to watch it on HBOMax before they take it off of there for a while.

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Daniel Kaluuya, LaKieth Stanfield, and Jesse Plemons all shine


I'll second that.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40832 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:12 am to
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I watched it.

Very solid movie. I really enjoyed it. Daniel Kaluuya, LaKieth Stanfield, and Jesse Plemons all shine.


Agreed.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4846 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:30 am to
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Daniel Kaluuya, LaKieth Stanfield, and Jesse Plemons all shine.


I'll add that Dominique Fishback is really good as well.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57712 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:36 am to
I try to avoid white guilt movies and TV. There’s plenty of it out there and it does nothing to help society.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22198 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:07 am to
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I try to avoid white guilt movies and TV. There’s plenty of it out there and it does nothing to help society.


It's not really a white guilt movie. They soft pedal a little bit how violent the Black Panthers really were, but the story focuses on Fred Hampton more than the other leaders of the party. Sure, the white Chicago police are the villains but they did murder Fred Hampton in cold blood, so they're not exactly the kind of folks to stand up for. But in the sense that they were white and guilty, then yes, you are correct.
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
1504 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:47 am to
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I try to avoid white guilt movies and TV. There’s plenty of it out there and it does nothing to help society.


This movie is not a white guilt movie smdh. It actually shows the good and bad of the black panther movement..doesnt sugarcoat on anything whether its Panthers, Chicago Police, FBI or Hampton himself.

Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:55 am to
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This movie is not a white guilt movie smdh. It actually shows the good and bad of the black panther movement..doesnt sugarcoat on anything whether its Panthers, Chicago Police, FBI or Hampton himself.


People who jump to baseless conclusions of “WOKE!/SJW!” based on a few promotional snippets are really starting to get annoying.

It’s like when that movie The Hunt came out last year and people jumped to the conclusion that it was anti-conservative, when, if anything, it was anti-Left elitism.
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
2601 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:07 am to
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I try to avoid white guilt movies and TV. There’s plenty of it out there and it does nothing to help society.



Being uninformed does nothing to help society either.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1737 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:07 am to
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I try to avoid white guilt movies and TV. There’s plenty of it out there and it does nothing to help society.


It’s not even remotely a white guilt movie. There’s actually a really good scene with Fred Hampton and the Young Patriots. Not to spoil it but Hampton preaches to them the togetherness that this society sorely needs right now.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:10 am to
Interesting historical footnote, the major gun control legislation of Ronald Reagan’s governorship of California, the Mulford Act, was designed to disarm LAWFULLY carrying members of the Black Panthers.

It’s almost like there is the potential for overlapping goals for gun rights advocates (historically conservative) and racial minorities (historically liberal).

You’ve got to expand your notions of who your political allies are.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8627 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:45 pm to
Solid movie. I enjoyed it.

I thought it did a good job of just telling a very interesting story without sugar coating anything.

Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27881 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:50 pm to
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I try to avoid white guilt movies and TV. There’s plenty of it out there and it does nothing to help society

Out of curiosity, how did you come to the conclusion that this is a movie designed to make white people feel guilty?
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8627 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Out of curiosity, how did you come to the conclusion that this is a movie designed to make white people feel guilty?


Good luck getting an answer from him...
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10637 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:43 pm to
In today's climate, there is no way this movie doesn't twist facts to make the Panthers the heroes. If it didn't, people would be calling it racist. It won't get my money to find out.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5202 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:54 pm to
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In today's climate, there is no way this movie doesn't twist facts to make the Panthers the heroes.

Hampton himself is portrayed positively (I have no idea how much they are exaggerating or twisting any facts), but the focus of the story is his betrayal by another black man, cooperating with the FBI. There is no heavy-handed lecturing about the evils of the FBI, because in this case, the facts actually speak for themselves. I don't think it's a controversial opinion that Hampton was assassinated. That's why it's a pretty good movie. There are enough generally accepted facts to make a compelling story without too much hyperbole or "artistic license."
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