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Jackie Brown
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:56 pm
In the spirit of over analyzing movies. Does Jackie’s plan only work because Louis shoots Melanie? If Melanie is alive she can contradict Jackie’s story about Melanie bursting into the dressing room plus her and Louis would have the same story about not looking in the bag. I assume her giving Melanie the 10K was to set Melanie up, but that seems risky. Seems like her plan falls apart with Melanie and Louis around 
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Posted on 6/26/26 at 9:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
Jackie was a quick thinker. Cunning and confident.
She would have figured something else out if Melanie had not been killed and the plan/story changed.
She would have figured something else out if Melanie had not been killed and the plan/story changed.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 9:31 pm to One72
Just watched this movie for the first time a couple days ago. Great soundtrack like pretty much every Tarantino movie. Thought the De Niro casting was odd since he plays such a passive seemingly ancillary character. Solid movie overall but not in the same class as Pulp, IB, Django, Once Upon a Time, Kill Bill.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:47 pm to H-Town Tiger
Max Cherry is one of my favorite characters of any movie
I wish he’d have won best supporting actor that year
I wish he’d have won best supporting actor that year
Posted on 6/26/26 at 11:58 pm to Lawyered
Tarantino’s most mature and grounded movie
Posted on 6/27/26 at 5:57 am to H-Town Tiger
I don’t think so.
So what? Cops don’t know about the $500k. And Melanie, a known associate of a felon, has got the marked bills. Who would believe her? Ordell? He didn’t believe Louis. Why would he believe Melanie.
I guess, but it seems more risky to arrange a meeting with Ordell with the intention of killing him in Max Cherry’s office.
But they were part of the plan from the start. Ordell never did the pickup. That’s how she knew to set Melanie up. And Melanie would have had the marked bills, dead or alive, didn’t really matter.
Cops didn’t care about the money. They wanted Ordell for murder and gunrunning, the meet up in Cherry’s office in the eyes of the cops was Ordell eliminating any loose ends, killing Melanie, killing Louis, and attempting to kill Jackie.
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If Melanie is alive she can contradict Jackie’s story about Melanie bursting into the dressing room
So what? Cops don’t know about the $500k. And Melanie, a known associate of a felon, has got the marked bills. Who would believe her? Ordell? He didn’t believe Louis. Why would he believe Melanie.
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I assume her giving Melanie the 10K was to set Melanie up, but that seems risky.
I guess, but it seems more risky to arrange a meeting with Ordell with the intention of killing him in Max Cherry’s office.
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Seems like her plan falls apart with Melanie and Louis around
But they were part of the plan from the start. Ordell never did the pickup. That’s how she knew to set Melanie up. And Melanie would have had the marked bills, dead or alive, didn’t really matter.
Cops didn’t care about the money. They wanted Ordell for murder and gunrunning, the meet up in Cherry’s office in the eyes of the cops was Ordell eliminating any loose ends, killing Melanie, killing Louis, and attempting to kill Jackie.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 8:47 am to Philzilla2k
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So what? Cops don’t know about the $500k. And Melanie, a known associate of a felon, has got the marked bills. Who would believe her? Ordell? He didn’t believe Louis. Why would he believe Melanie.
If Melanie and Louis are telling the same story that’s different than Louis saying I shot Melanie and giving Ordell a bag with 40K.
The cops aren’t going to just take anyone’s word. I don’t think Ray really believes Jackie but he can’t prove anything. If someone is contradicting her story they will look into it further. The cops thinks she’s bringing 50k because that’s what Jackie told them, but Ordell/Louis/Melanie all know it’s supposed to be 500K and would say so, if they were arrested and there’s the bag with the books, how would she explain that? And if the cops find out she brought all 500 and only told them 50 she’d really be fricked. It all falls apart if Louis doesn’t shoot Melanie
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But they were part of the plan from the start
Louis and Melanie were not always part of the plan, it was supposed to be Simone, they switched to Melanie at the last minute because Simone bolted with the 10K from the practice run.
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Posted on 6/27/26 at 8:49 am to H-Town Tiger
This is one movie that I’ve never seen and always go back and forth on whether or not I’d like it. I like QT movies a lot but this one always felt different to me for some reason.
How does it rank with his other movies?
How does it rank with his other movies?
Posted on 6/27/26 at 8:57 am to CocomoLSU
I know some people like to argue it’s better than Pulp Fiction which is pure contrarianism imo. I think it’s great but a notch below what I consider his 3 masterpieces: Pulp Fiction, Inglorious Basterds and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Jackie Brown and then Reservoir Dogs round out the top 5 for me.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:02 am to SDtiger16
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Solid movie overall but not in the same class as Pulp, IB, Django, Once Upon a Time, Kill Bill.
You’re right - it’s in a class above those.
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Thought the De Niro casting was odd since he plays such a passive seemingly ancillary character.
Reportedly he wanted to play the lead, but QT had already promised it to Robert forester and they butted heads all production bc Deniro was pissed.
Ended up being the right call. Forester in this role is one of my favorite movie performances and great chemistry with Pam Grier
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:04 am to CocomoLSU
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This is one movie that I’ve never seen and always go back and forth on whether or not I’d like it. I like QT movies a lot but this one always felt different to me for some reason. How does it rank with his other movies?
Personally it’s my favorite. It’s based on a book so while it still has some Tarintino flair, it’s much more subdued and the movie moves like butter.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:04 am to wildtigercat93
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You’re right - it’s in a class above those.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:07 am to H-Town Tiger
It’s close with OUATIH, pulp, and resovior dogs - mainly a personal favorite of mine
I think it wipes the floor with kill bill tho
I think it wipes the floor with kill bill tho
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:26 am to H-Town Tiger
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I know some people like to argue it’s better than Pulp Fiction which is pure contrarianism imo. I think it’s great but a notch below what I consider his 3 masterpieces: Pulp Fiction, Inglorious Basterds and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
That seems fair. And I always felt the same with the contrarian thing. I will say Hollywood is one of my least favorite QT movies though. I have no idea why that movie is so beloved; it’s nowhere near top tier Tarantino IMO.
I may check it out soon though based on this thread.
For reference, my top three are likely PF, Reservoir, and Basterds. But I will say that Kill Bill has grown on me a lot over the years. I think I undervalued those initially and they are a lot better to me now.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:37 am to H-Town Tiger
Seems like i remember a clip where characters from another QT film show up in this movie? Or did I dream that?
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:57 am to MorbidTheClown
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eems like i remember a clip where characters from another QT film show up in this movie? Or did I dream that?
Micheal Keatons played the character Ray Nicolette previously in Out Of Sight, which was a Soderberg movie based on another novel by the same author as Jackie brown. Not connected to any other QT movie characters
Out of sight is a banger too
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Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:59 am to CocomoLSU
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That seems fair. And I always felt the same with the contrarian thing. I will say Hollywood is one of my least favorite QT movies though. I have no idea why that movie is so beloved; it’s nowhere near top tier Tarantino IMO
It’s one of the best movies of the 2020s. Might be QTs most fun movie.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:59 am to wildtigercat93
I thought there was something about the characters crossing paths in a parking lot. But, again, might have been a dream.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:23 pm to wildtigercat93
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It’s close with OUATIH, pulp, and resovior dogs - mainly a personal favorite of mine I think it wipes the floor with kill bill tho
100% on the Kill Bill.
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Micheal Keatons played the character Ray Nicolette previously in Out Of Sigh
Jackie Brown was first, I think QT pushed to let the studio that made Out of Sight use the Ray Nicholette character because they didn’t have rights to that character. Keaton isn’t even credited in OOS, just a cameo role.
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Out of sight is a banger too
100% and absolute peak JLo, she is smokin hot in that movie
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