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Is the MCU forgetting its target audience?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:24 am
With past releases like she-hulk, Thor love and thunder, Ms marvel, etc, it’s pretty evident marvel is on a “girl power” kick. Not only is the girl power movement obvious, they are also making most men in these films/shows bumbling idiots or have zero redeeming qualities.
Thor - he’s an absolute moron in the movie
She hulk - name me one strong positive male character. I’ll wait.
For gods sake, take a look at the most recent black panther poster:
4 out of the 5 featured stars are women front and center.
I’d love to know the statistics of the demographics of MCU viewers. I can’t imagine it’s a majority female crowd.
And before you give me the “WhY dO yOu CaRe?” It’s blatantly obvious. Sorry I’m the one who has to point it out. Plus, I’m sick of she hulk reminding me that every man is a piece of shite.
Also, we as human beings tend to be drawn to people similar to us. So, the majority of the viewers would PROBABLY prefer Disney to lay off the man-hating.
I am a nerd and I love everything marvel, but damn Disney is making me think twice.
Thor - he’s an absolute moron in the movie
She hulk - name me one strong positive male character. I’ll wait.
For gods sake, take a look at the most recent black panther poster:
4 out of the 5 featured stars are women front and center.
I’d love to know the statistics of the demographics of MCU viewers. I can’t imagine it’s a majority female crowd.
And before you give me the “WhY dO yOu CaRe?” It’s blatantly obvious. Sorry I’m the one who has to point it out. Plus, I’m sick of she hulk reminding me that every man is a piece of shite.
Also, we as human beings tend to be drawn to people similar to us. So, the majority of the viewers would PROBABLY prefer Disney to lay off the man-hating.
I am a nerd and I love everything marvel, but damn Disney is making me think twice.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:19 am
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:26 am to floyd of pink
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4 out of the 5 featured stars are women front and center.
Dude, Black Panter is an outlier. NOBODY expected it to be the hit it was, and it's main star died suddenly.
There aren't any main male characters left other than M'Baku, who is a stretch as a "main" character.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:36 am to floyd of pink
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Is the MCU forgetting it’s target audience?
Babies?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:41 am to floyd of pink
quote:It's the standard rom-com where she goes through the bad apples before she finds a good one or two.
I’m sick of she hulk reminding me that every man is a piece of shite.
Non-pieces-of-shite men in She-Hulk:
• Bruce Banner
• Jen's Dad
• Emil Blonsky (and his crew of reformed super-villains)
• Wong
• Pug started as shite and is transitioning into a reformed shite
• Luke the tailor
• Matt Murdock
The majority of the shite guys are the men that she ran through on her dating app binge (which turned out to be a plot point for her trademark trial) and a few villains.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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NOBODY expected it to be the hit it was,
This I would disagree with. I figured correctly that it would be a massive hit.
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and it's main star died suddenly.
Chadwick's death kind of put them in a tough spot. I know they wanted to pay their respects to him, but they should have recast the part.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:44 am to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:49 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:Yeah, that wouldn't have pissed anyone off.
Chadwick's death kind of put them in a tough spot. I know they wanted to pay their respects to him, but they should have recast the part.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:52 am to floyd of pink
Eh, you're reaching here. Since the pandemic Marvel has released:
Black Widow
Eternals
Spider-Man
Doctor Strange
Thor
One of those is a movie where the lead is a female, another is a group movie, and the other three are led by male heroes.
Black Panther is only a female because of the passing of Chadwick Boseman.
The next two years you have:
Ant-Man
Guardians
The Marvels
Blade
Captain America
Thunderbolts
Deadpool
Fantastic Four
Again, pretty male heavy.
Black Widow
Eternals
Spider-Man
Doctor Strange
Thor
One of those is a movie where the lead is a female, another is a group movie, and the other three are led by male heroes.
Black Panther is only a female because of the passing of Chadwick Boseman.
The next two years you have:
Ant-Man
Guardians
The Marvels
Blade
Captain America
Thunderbolts
Deadpool
Fantastic Four
Again, pretty male heavy.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:53 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Yeah, that wouldn't have pissed anyone off.
See, i dont get this logic. Chadwick's death was awful no doubt. But wouldn't it be great to pay tribute to him by recasting the role with a strong black male actor?
Would people really be pissed if that happened? I cant see it.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:57 am to floyd of pink
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But wouldn't it be great to pay tribute to him by recasting the role with a strong black male actor?
Eh is that tribute to him?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:58 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Yeah, that wouldn't have pissed anyone off.
Handled correctly, it could have, and should have, been done.
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Eh is that tribute to him?
Why wouldn't it be a tribute? Present it as big shoes to fill, continuing a legacy, etc., etc.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:59 am to floyd of pink
quote:That's not a tribute. That's moving forward as if you didn't lose an actor that was an icon to his race.
But wouldn't it be great to pay tribute to him by recasting the role with a strong black male actor?
The way they're doing it, building a film around the loss of that person, with turmoil, visual reminders of the loss to Wakanda, showing the journey that leads to someone taking up his mantle, that's a tribute.
Not, "The role of Black Panther will now be played by John David Washington."
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:00 am to floyd of pink
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Yeah, that wouldn't have pissed anyone off.
quote:
See, i dont get this logic. Chadwick's death was awful no doubt. But wouldn't it be great to pay tribute to him by recasting the role with a strong black male actor?
Would people really be pissed if that happened? I cant see it.
Marvel was too quick to state that the role would not be recast after Chadwick's death. They should have quietly moved forward with a casting search and once they had their man take the appropriate time to announce and allow this to digest.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:02 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:00 am to CP3forMVP
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Eh, you're reaching here
Black female Ironman
Black cap
Female thor
Dr strange and the trannies
Etc
Deadpool / Wolverine is the only movie I’m interested in seeing
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:05 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Why wouldn't it be a tribute? Present it as big shoes to fill, continuing a legacy, etc., etc.
Because it’s clearly just a business decision.
Saying “this guy was great and it will be hard to replace him, anyway here’s Black Panther.” Is absolutely a hollow tribute.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:07 am to floyd of pink
Take a deep breath and just show me on the doll where Kevin Feige hurt you
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:09 am to Fewer Kilometers
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That's not a tribute. That's moving forward as if you didn't lose an actor that was an icon to his race.
Chadwick Boseman wasn't an icon to his race. The man wasn't MLK. The hyperbole is a little much.
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The way they're doing it, building a film around the loss of that person, with turmoil, visual reminders of the loss to Wakanda, showing the journey that leads to someone taking up his mantle, that's a tribute.
They could have recast the role without the extended memorial service.
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Not, "The role of Black Panther will now be played by John David Washington."
I like JDW, but a poor choice for the role.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:11 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:I am with you on this.
Chadwick Boseman wasn't an icon to his race. The man wasn't MLK. The hyperbole is a little much.
Has Hollywood ever deified another actor like this before?
The guy was a fantastic actor, but it’s a little much, IMO.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:12 am to Barrister
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Take a deep breath and just show me on the doll where Kevin Feige hurt you
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:13 am to SammyTiger
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Because it’s clearly just a business decision.
Saying “this guy was great and it will be hard to replace him, anyway here’s Black Panther.” Is absolutely a hollow tribute.
It wouldn't have been just a business decision. It would be continuing a legacy. Obviously it wouldn't be "anyway, here's blah, blah, blah."
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