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re: Is Harry Potter the greatest achievement in cinematic history?

Posted on 5/31/11 at 11:51 am to
Posted by drewhowie
Michigan
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 11:51 am to
people have to remember that J.K. Rowling is a producer for most of these movies.

I can't help but think that this these movies are exactly what Rowling wants
Posted by drewhowie
Michigan
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 11:54 am to
they also got really lucky that Ron didn't grow up to be a really ugly ginger
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 11:55 am to
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people have to remember that J.K. Rowling is a producer for most of these movies.

I can't help but think that this these movies are exactly what Rowling wants



The original 3 Star Wars remakes were Lucas' vision, and how do most people feel about that?

I know the movie is never going to be EXACTLY like the books, but some things are just inexcusable IMO, like the casting of the new Dumbledore
Posted by drewhowie
Michigan
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 11:57 am to
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I know the movie is never going to be EXACTLY like the books, but some things are just inexcusable IMO, like the casting of the new Dumbledore


what's the deal with all the dumbledore hate?

i just watched half blood prince last night and i thought he was a pulled off a great dumbledore. he's a very capable actor in all the movies
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 12:13 pm to
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I know the movie is never going to be EXACTLY like the books, but some things are just inexcusable IMO, like the casting of the new Dumbledore



As said earlier, your complaints seem to be with the writing and direction that has been provided to the latest Dumbledore, not the physical actor. Gambon is good when he's not doing things out of character. He can be silly and dark and threatening at the same time. Harris clearly could only be silly.
Posted by swagsurfin7
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 12:16 pm to
Fred and George are two of my favorite characters. Thought they were cast well
This post was edited on 5/31/11 at 12:17 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 12:16 pm to
He's a great actor. Pretty much fails at capturing what Dumbledore is. His frustration about what the horcrux's could be and where they would be when him and Harry finished the lessons was just crap. Again, that is probably the director's call, but just a wrong one.
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 1:18 pm to
what about Stephen Kings Books that went blockbuster?
Just to name a few...
The Stand
Langoliers
It
Maximum Overdrive
Salems Lot
Silver Bullet
Bag of Bones
Carrie


that's a stretch from 1976 to 2006, maybe not exactly what you were aiming for, but one writer, supernatural subject, 40+ years of print to film action.
Posted by BAMFulk24
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 10:19 am to
This may be old to some of you on the board, but I just found this.

quote:

Actor Alan Rickman (who portrays the character of Severus Snape) has written as part of Empire Magazine's Harry Potter Ultimate Celebration Supplement about his time working on the films. In brief, yet touching, note, Mr. Rickman describes his emotions upon finishing his role as Severus Snape and recalls working with his young co-stars Dan Radcliffe (Harry Potter), Emma Watson (Hermione Granger), and Rupert Grint (Ron Weasley). The note finishes with a thank you to Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling.




Posted by drewhowie
Michigan
Member since Sep 2010
1065 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 11:33 am to
i want that in my room.

Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

what about Stephen Kings Books that went blockbuster?
Just to name a few...
The Stand
Langoliers
It
Maximum Overdrive
Salems Lot
Silver Bullet
Bag of Bones
Carrie


I just don't get this comment - are all of these the same story? Same movie series?

Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 12:45 pm to
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If that's your criteria, I guess.

But I would say:

Birth of a Nation
Casablanca
The Conversation
The Godfather (1 and 2)
Chinatown
Lawrence of Arabia
Dr. Strangelove
To Kill a Mockingbird
Bonnie and Clyde
Rear Window

plus many others are better stand alone movies


I don't think anyone was arguing that any of these movies are individually the greatest of al time. So what's the point of this post?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22612 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 12:54 pm to
I've read all the books multiple times and am a huge fan. I've only seen the first two, I've held out on watching the others just because I believe I have such a fantastic story already in my mind from the literature. That said, I think this series definitely could rank among the top, if not #1, movie franchises ever in terms of continuity (same actors, picking up where it should, etc).

I do plan on watching the movies, but I want to read all the books again, then watch each mobie back to back, just cause that's how I roll.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 2:49 pm to
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Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 2:59 pm to
Right, I never said the movies were the best ever made.

All I'm trying to say is that the Harry Potter series was unlike any other series in movie history.

8 movies in 10 years. All of them good to outstanding. Same cast. Same feel.

It's pretty impressive, no matter what the Citizen Kane snobs of this board think (Leauxgan)

Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 3:04 pm to
fwiw I don't care for Citizen Kane besides its cinematography.

what's popular and best selling doesn't necessarily mark it as a great achievement. I think James Patterson and Danielle Steele books are shite, but they're perinially on the NYT Best Sellers list.

Harry Potter is a frivolous adventure movie with great storytelling. Nothing wrong with that, but imo, it doesn't have any superlative merits attached to its name other than popularity.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 3:06 pm to
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Right, I never said the movies were the best ever made.
You kinda did. The name of this thread is "Is Harry Potter the greatest acheivement in cinematic history?" That sort of means to me, is this the best film ever?

I also think the movies range from mediocre to very good, but that's just personal taste. I don't think any of them reach great, but all are at least an enjoyable way to spend an afternoon. I don't think one has to be a movie snob to think A) Harry Potter is not the peak of cinematic and acheivement and B) the movies were okay.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 3:20 pm to
In my mind, saying it's a great achievement doesn't mean it's the greatest film.

Avatar is a great achievement, but it's not a great film.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 3:22 pm to
GreatEST acheivement. You didn't say great, you said greatest.
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 6/1/11 at 3:24 pm to
they're a string of fun, imaginative movies. I don't really see much else past that criteria.

also, the use of the word 'achievement' is vague. achieve what, exactly? and what movies do they surpass based upon your explanation of the word?
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