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re: Is Anyone Else Burned Out On Comic Book Movies?
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:01 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:01 pm to Freauxzen
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Harry Potter
Jurassic Park
Transformers (show first, comic book second)
Star Wars
Tom Cruise Movies
So what we have actually got recently.... One mission impossible, the Harry Potter knock offs, and a lower budget transformers.
There are no more orginal action movies. Hell we don't even get middle of the road Ben Stiller like comedies. Drama movies have dried up.
The goalposts have moved, 100 million is no longer a Blockbuster. So you are right that is a very small set of movies. Movie studios are not going to waste their time until the current model stops working
Luckily TV has picked up the slack.
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:02 pm to jg8623
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:21 pm to Freauxzen
Disney has it listed on their upcoming slate. It will be released.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:24 pm to UltimaParadox
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One mission impossible
Which was a Top tier Action film
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he Harry Potter knock offs
but both were solid middle of the road films.
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and a lower budget transformers.
Which is apparently the best one
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There are no more orginal action movies.
John Wick. We get Zombieland and Rambo this year. Upgrade, Mandy, Tomb Raider last year for some fun. Baby Driver. The Planet of the Apes. Dunkirk. in 2017.
There are plenty of action films.
Actually ever since the lull, action has been pretty strong, and unique. John Wick, MI, and The Raid films have all been excellent over the last 6-7 years.
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Hell we don't even get middle of the road Ben Stiller like comedies.
Talk about making the same film over and over again
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Drama movies have dried up.
One of the most hyped films of the year is Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
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The goalposts have moved, 100 million is no longer a Blockbuster. So you are right that is a very small set of movies. Movie studios are not going to waste their time until the current model stops working
Actually, I think we've seen MORE unique films now than we've seen since the 80-90s indie push. There are some crazy fun films being made and sci fi and horror are both having banner years every year, because studios can lock in profits on some of these big films.
Mandy only gets made like now and maybe in the 90s.
And how do some not realize Blumhouse and A24 are cranking out good movies every couple of months....?
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:36 pm to LuckyTiger
Bad comic book movies, yes.
Good comic book movies, no.
Good comic book movies, no.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:51 pm to UltimaParadox
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True only difference is now almost 100% of big budget movies are comic book movies now.
That is just straight up not true.
Of the movies that cost over $200 million to make more than half are not comic book related. LINK
Every single one of these series from the last 5-10 years is filled with massively budgeted movies.
Harry Potter
James Bond
Mission Impossible
Avatar
Pirates of the Caribbean
Fast and the Furious
Transformers
Lord of the Rings/Hobbit
Jurassic World
Terminator
Kong/Godzilla
Tomb Raider
the various live action Disney remakes Alice in Wonderland, Maleficent, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, Jungle Book, Dumbo etc etc (which I guess you are saying are the Disney kids movies?)
There are also the one offs and franchises that fizzled.
Ready Player One
Mortal Engines
Chronicles of Narnia
John Carter
The Lone Ranger
Oz the Great and Powerful
The BFG
Pacific Rim
Battleship
2012
The Meg
Skyscraper
Rampage
King Arthur: Legend of the Sword
Robin Hood (2018)
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms
A Wrinkle in Time
Ghost in the Shell
Blade Runner:2049
Power Rangers
The Mummy
The Great Wall
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
Divergent series
Ben Hur
Gods of Egypt
Deep Water Horizon
Ghostbusters
Tomorrowland
Snow White/The Huntsman
Mary Poppins Returns
I'm not even close to listing all the $100 million+ movies from the last 10 years. Most of those are just from the last 5.
As for the claim that there are no other kinds of movies being released other than those 4 you listed, no that again is flat out not true.
Here are some random mid budget movies from just last year. These are all sub $100m that cost $20m or more to make.
The Commuter (thriller)
Mile 22 (action thriller)
Proud Mary (action thriller)
50 Shades Freed (romantic drama)
12 Strong (war drama)
Den of Thieves (heist)
Ocean's 8 (heist)
The Maze Runner: Death Cure (dystopian sci fi)
15:17 to Paris (bio drama)
Game Night (comedy)
Red Sparrow (spy thriller)
Death Wish (action thriller)
Blockers (comedy)
Happy Time Murders (comedy)
I Feel Pretty (comedy)
Life of the Party (comedy)
Tag (comedy)
Sicario: Day of the Soldado (action crime)
Mama Mia: Here We Go Again (musical)
Equalizer 2 (action thriller)
Crazy Rich Asians (comedy)
Peppermint (action thriller)
Hunter Killer (action thriller)
Instant Family (comedy)
Holmes and Watson (comedy)
White Boy Rick (bio crime drama)
The Sisters Brothers (western dark comedy)
The Hurricane Heist (disaster action)
The Predator (action sci fi)
The House with a Clock in Its Walls (fantasy family)
Night School (comedy)
A Star is Born (musical drama)
The Hate You Give (drama)
First Man (bio drama)
Bad Times at the El Royale (thriller)
Goosebumps 2 (horror comedy)
Bohemian Rhapsody (musical bio drama)
Suspiria (horror)
Johnny English Strikes Again (action comedy)
The Girl in the Spider's Web (thriller crime)
Tyler Perry's Acrimony (drama)
Overlord (war horror)
Widows (heist thriller)
Alpha (fantasy adventure)
The Nun (horror)
Creed II (sports drama)
Mary Queen of Scots (historical drama)
The Mule (bio crime drama)
Chappaquiddick (bio drama)
Vice (bio drama)
Welcome to Marwen (bio drama)
That list doesn't even include all the horror, teen drama, and indie movies that were made for under $20 million or anything animated. LINK
If you think there is nothing but big budget comic movies, Star Wars, and Disney, you really aren't trying very hard to find anything else.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 2:56 am
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:11 pm to Nguyener
I was over them several years ago. shite is ridic
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:13 pm to Dr RC
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If you think there is nothing but big budget comic movies, Star Wars, and Disney, you really aren't trying very hard to find anything else
At any given time is there a comic book playing at your local movie theatre?
I have no further questions for this witness.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:14 pm to Freauxzen
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Actually, I think we've seen MORE unique films now than we've seen since the 80-90s indie push.
Utter nonsense.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:16 pm to GatorReb
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. It’s like 3 or 4 tops a year.
Huh?
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:21 pm to Dr RC
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If you think there is nothing but big budget comic movies, Star Wars, and Disney, you really aren't trying very hard to find anything else.
It's funny. I know I like comic book films, but when I get in these threads, it's actually less about defending comic book films and more about - GO SEE BLUMHOUSE AND A24 FILMS STAT. And the like.
You've got Horror films like The Invitation, The Autopsy of Jane Doe and a literal host of other awesome, unique films. A24 putting out Eigth Grade,Lady Bird, Room, The Lobster (great movie, fight me), The Florida Project, Green Room, etc. Blumhouse with Halloween, Get Out/Us, Ouija, etc. Stuff like Wind River, Ex Machina, Whiplash, Three Billboards, The Way, Way Back, Dope, Other People. The Big Sick, A Separation, A Quiet Place, The Favourite, Annihilation....and that's just off the top of my head.
Unique actors like Nicholas Cage pumping out stuff like Mandy, Drive Angry, and Mom and Dad or Ben Foster killing it in Leave No Trace and Hell or High Water. Wind River was awesome. Refn, Cuaron, Villenueva.
I mean the gap from something like the Florida Project to a Mandy or Us is crazy. there is a wide, wide range of things to see right now. It's actually way exciting.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:25 pm to MidnightVibe
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At any given time is there a comic book playing at your local movie theatre?
I have no further questions for this witness.
You mean like there are always 2 comedy films, 2 family/animated films and 2 dramas in the theater at any time? And probably, now, at least 1 horror film.
Sure.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:29 pm to MidnightVibe
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Actually, I think we've seen MORE unique films now than we've seen since the 80-90s indie push.
Utter nonsense.
See above.
In 2018 we got:
Blackklansman
A Quiet Place
Roma
Eighth Grade
Leave No Trace
Annihilation
Mandy
Crazy Rich Asians
Old Man and The Gun
Halloween
Game Night
Free Solo
Ready Player One
MI Fallout
You Were Never Really Here
Widows
Upgrade
And that's not counting the bigger films like A Star is Born and Green Book.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:30 pm to Freauxzen
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Actually ever since the lull, action has been pretty strong, and unique. John Wick, MI, and The Raid films have all been excellent over the last 6-7 years.
The straight to dvd market has been keeping 80s style action and martial arts films alive. Some of them make their way to netflix, some don't. I watch quite a few non superhero, non sci fi action films a year.
Generally speaking, if you want original movies you have to look at the straight to dvd, or limited theatrical release, and foreign films. There's plenty of good non theatrically released movies every year. They just don't get talked about here much.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:34 pm to Dr RC
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If you think there is nothing but big budget comic movies, Star Wars, and Disney, you really aren't trying very hard to find anything else.
Totally agree
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:42 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Generally speaking, if you want original movies you have to look at the straight to dvd, or limited theatrical release, and foreign films.
Probably, but every mid-sized town will have a theater that plays this stuff now.
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There's plenty of good non theatrically released movies every year. They just don't get talked about here much.
I think for a few reasons:
1) People don't listen.
I tell people to go watch stuff like Ravenous every chance I get. And like I said here, if you think there are no original films but don't watch A24 or Blumhouse, please do. They make awesome movies. 2) People think that the past was more "Dense" with good films, because we typically forget the bad films. So when I say "I want more films like x, y, and z," not realizing that there was probably a 5 years gap between those films. Terminator and Robocop ore 3 years apart but are often grouped together.
3) Selective memory. Thinking comic book films are the same, while espousing some thing like 80-90s action films is weird. Look, I love those films just as much as everyone else. Blood sport is a national treasure. Raw Deal is underrated. Die Hard is a GOAT film for me. But let's not act like outside of a few outliers like Total Recall or Robocop, that all of these films were largely the same. These films might mean something different to us, because of when we watched them in our lives, but they are a pretty routine genre. Same for westerns and a hot of other genres or film movements.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:50 pm to Freauxzen
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You mean like there are always 2 comedy films, 2 family/animated films and 2 dramas in the theater at any time? And probably, now, at least 1 horror film.
Sure.
I think you just made my point. Saying that superhero movies are half as frequent as "comedies" or "dramas" is, sadly, probably true.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:52 pm to Freauxzen
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See above.
In 2018 we got:
Blackklansman
A Quiet Place
Roma
Eighth Grade
Leave No Trace
Annihilation
Mandy
Crazy Rich Asians
Old Man and The Gun
Halloween
Game Night
Free Solo
Ready Player One
MI Fallout
You Were Never Really Here
Widows
Upgrade
And that's not counting the bigger films like A Star is Born and Green Book.
I'm not going to go through and list movies from the 80s or 90s, but you are invited to, and you will see the delta.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:59 pm to MidnightVibe
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I think you just made my point. Saying that superhero movies are half as frequent as "comedies" or "dramas" is, sadly, probably true.
What does that change? They are 4 films out of 150 films released limited or wide annually? Just because they occupy a spot every weekend means nothing. A wide film like that has to be wide in appeal for a reason. Hereditary was a great film. It is not a family film, nor would I want 8 year olds watching it.
What about the above statements about unique films or 2018? We live in a time when an extremely wide range of films are made. Superhero films have had approximately 0 effect on films like Lady Bird or The Witch being made.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 12:00 am
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:02 am to Freauxzen
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They are 4 films out of 150 films released limited or wide annually?
4?
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