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re: Is Anyone Else Burned Out On Comic Book Movies?

Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:03 am to
Posted by MidnightVibe
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:03 am to
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What about the above statements about unique films or 2018? We live in a time when an extremely wide range of films are made. Superhero films have had approximately 0 effect on films like Lady Bird or The Witch being made.



Not true at all. There are a fixed number of screens, and it's a zero-sum game. For every screen that is showing a rehashed superhero movie, it is not showing an original film. How in the world can you try to dispute this?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:04 am to
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At any given time is there a comic book playing at your local movie theatre?

I have no further questions for this witness.


At any given time are there non comic movies at your local theater?



Posted by montana
Bozeman, MT
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:08 am to
They’re awful.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:09 am to
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At any given time are there non comic movies at your local theater?


Hopefully.

What was your point?
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:12 am to
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For every screen that is showing a rehashed superhero movie, it is not showing an original film. How in the world can you try to dispute this?


I dont think anyone is disputing that. But that’s not what this conversation was about. People are acting like they only have a choice between superhero, Star Wars, or Disney movies and that’s just extremely false
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:12 am to


I listed 50 mid budget movies that came out in 2018 alone. That's more movies in one year than all the X-Men, MCU, and DCEU movies combined and I'm not even including all the other small and big budget films that came out.

This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 12:47 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:14 am to
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I'm not going to go through and list movies from the 80s or 90s, but you are invited to, and you will see the delta.





Nostalgia talking. Outside of some outliers like 88, or 99 being amazing and top heavy, or 1981 or 2006 being relatively subpar, most years have a generous mix of good and bad.

Take 86 for instance, sure we had:
Aliens, Top Gun, Labyrinth, The Mission, Platoon, Ferris, and Big Trouble, Pretty in Pink...

But then we get to Crocodile Dundee (certainly not as good as we all probably thought), Blue Velvet (great but niche), Highlander (also great, also niche), Howard the Duck, Texas Chainsaw 2, Ruthless People, Maximum Overdrive (I mean I love the movie, but still....haha), Karate Kid Part 2, Flight of the Navigator (again, nostalgia tells me its good and I own, but honest assessment....), etc. We might remember those films well, or had a lot of fun with them, but most are awkward, or just plain not good.

Solid year. But Nostalgia tells us its better than it is. The only great movies out of that year - Aliens, Ferris, Platoon, The Mission.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good chunk of movies out of that year, but I'm not going to try and argue that Cobra is better than John Wick. That's just not true.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37232 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:20 am to
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Not true at all. There are a fixed number of screens, and it's a zero-sum game. For every screen that is showing a rehashed superhero movie, it is not showing an original film. How in the world can you try to dispute this?



Because, as I said above, as someone who wants to see good movies, I often miss superhero films that aren't the giant tentpoles because I am watching foreign, low budget, or indie films instead and I prioritize those over superhero films outside of the strict MCU films. I've missed Venom and all of the last DC films in the theater because I run out of time.

All this tells me is that either 1) You only go to AMC or whatever 2) Don't actually research unique films at all.

Heck, I usually miss horror films because there are flat out too many of them now, and they don't make the date cut typically.

Edit: Like I said, there's actually TOO MUCH content right now. It isn't superhero movies, it's everything. Leave No Trace was a phenomenal film. In the 80s it would have stood out way more. It isn't lost because of superhero films, it's lost in the shuffle because of the dozen other great films about families, or unique dramatic struggles.

If anything, the strength of the 80s wasn't about a higher quality, but actually less options, so a higher rate of quality comparatively. I'd argue there are more unique films with better performances/scripts/direction now than maybe ever. There's just too many of them for even a set of them to get recognized.

That and films sometimes feel more niche than ever, even the great films. I don't think anyone in my family would like Blue Velvet. Consequently, they also won't like Mandy. Back then, you probably had a chance of convincing someone to watch Blue Velvet, now there are dozens of other films that fit a more comfortable niche for them I could recommend. Maybe not Mandy, but give The Way Way Back a shot perhaps.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 12:37 am
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58030 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:24 am to
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What was your point?




My point is

quote:

If you think there is nothing but big budget comic movies, Star Wars, and Disney, you really aren't trying very hard to find anything else

Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20470 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 1:19 am to
Yes. They’ve ruined the industry.
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