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re: Inglourious Basterds question
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:49 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:49 pm to AggieHank86
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You seem to be REALLY invested in this issue.
…….
Chill out
I see you’ve never interacted with OML before…
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:49 pm to blueboy
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Still, that doesn't mean he knew who she was in that scene.
Tarantino’s dialog is very intentional. Now it’s possible Landa didn’t know it was her or may have suspected but couldn’t say so conclusively, but he had been hunting her for years at that point. He did not forget who she was. Maybe he was digging a bit more for evidence on when she just popped up out of nowhere and then decided to throw that plan out the window when he found out the Basterds were coming to the premiere.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:52 pm to CocomoLSU
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She was “this close” to being exposed (and likely death) and made it out the other side with not being recognized. If he recognizes her and let’s her go anyway, her reaction doesn’t mean as much IMO.
Honestly a fair point. I’m pretty much at 50/50 on this slightly leaning to the fact that he did know who she was (or at least suspected), but either way is good and fine with me.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:59 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:I have interacted with him on the Poli board. I just thought he might be (a tad) less ... insane ... talking about movies.
I see you’ve never interacted with OML before
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:03 pm to OMLandshark
You always overthink this shite and then impose your theories as if they're facts. Coco's answer is the most reasonable. Plus, if he knew who she was, he did nothing after that scene that would indicate that. shite, pretty much anyone would at least have her followed and watched if they believed they knew who she was. No matter how focused he is on the basterds, he'd never let that go. Instead, she's able to mass murder his bosses.
Can you think of anything he said or did after that scene that would indicate he knows who she is? I cannot.
Can you think of anything he said or did after that scene that would indicate he knows who she is? I cannot.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:04 pm to AggieHank86
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I have interacted with him on the Poli board. I just thought he might be (a tad) less ... insane ... talking about movies.
Oh I’m way more defensive on my film tastes than my politics.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:13 pm to blueboy
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You always overthink this shite and then impose your theories as if they're facts. Coco's answer is the most reasonable.
As I’ve said, I think it’s 50/50, but Landa’s actions put me slightly in the direction that he knew.
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Plus, if he knew who she was, he did nothing after that scene that would indicate that.
Yeah, because the scene after that Landa finds out that the Basterds are coming to the premiere, and they are a much, much bigger fish to fry than her. Knowingly letting the Basterds plan come to fruition is his only way out of not getting hanged at the end of the war, especially when he implied he is every bit as vicious as Heydrich. So logic dictates he’d just ignore her from there if he knew who she was.
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No matter how focused he is on the basterds, he'd never let that go.
You’re damn right he would, because exposing her makes sure the Basterds plan doesn’t come to fruition. Again, Shoshana is just a game to him. The Basterds and getting pardoned is what he’s really after.
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Instead, she's able to mass murder his bosses.
Which he allows. Either he’s going to let Shoshana or the Basterds do it. Same end result. Hitler and Goebbels at least probably would have made it out alive if the Basterds didn’t come storming into the box.
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Can you think of anything he said or did after that scene that would indicate he knows who she is? I cannot.
Because Landa’s motive changes. The next scene he’s investigating the basement bar massacre.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:15 pm to OMLandshark
Eh, most of that is just you making shite up, though.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:16 pm to TigerDeacon
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This is incorrect.
It is, or at least it can be, and in the mind of QT, it was.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:33 pm to blueboy
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Eh, most of that is just you making shite up, though.
Is it? If he knows who Shoshana is, why would he expose her before the big event that would get the High Command killed and him a pardon and a nice bit of real estate on Nantucket Island?
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:37 pm to OMLandshark
Maybe because he slaughtered her whole family.
Again, nothing outside of that scene indicates that he may know who she is. If you wish to imagine that he does, great, but that's all it amounts to.
Again, nothing outside of that scene indicates that he may know who she is. If you wish to imagine that he does, great, but that's all it amounts to.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:40 pm to blueboy
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Maybe because he slaughtered her whole family.
Well he’s not/didn’t stick around. All ratting on her will do is make Hitler hightail it back to Berlin and he fricks up his potential pardon. And again, Hitler is in the fricking room, so you would think even over the person who commanded her family’s death that Hitler would still be the prime target. Plus he knows to be careful around her if she pops up around him from behind working the projector.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:59 pm to OMLandshark
Again,. it is never before or again hinted at that he knows or may know who she is. It's 100% your own interpretation.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:08 pm to Tic44
Nah he let him live. He would get the reputation of not being a man of his word so less people would be willing to open up to him. You get more flies with honey than vinegar.
Landa didn’t really give a shite about the Nazis or Americans. He was a narcissist who only looked out for himself and his aspirations. He even said he enjoyed being called the Jew Hunter because he earned that title. He also made it abundantly clear that he wanted to be put in history books as a man who was involved with Operation Kino from the beginning while having his record cleared of war crimes.
If he’s known as a dishonest man who nobody could trust, that would hinder his ability to gain more power and reverence.
Landa didn’t really give a shite about the Nazis or Americans. He was a narcissist who only looked out for himself and his aspirations. He even said he enjoyed being called the Jew Hunter because he earned that title. He also made it abundantly clear that he wanted to be put in history books as a man who was involved with Operation Kino from the beginning while having his record cleared of war crimes.
If he’s known as a dishonest man who nobody could trust, that would hinder his ability to gain more power and reverence.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:14 pm to OMLandshark
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I believe he did and was planning to be a sick frick to Zoeller by directly exposing her in front of the High Command, but once he knew the Basterds were coming, he realized he had much bigger fish to fry than her.
While I don't think this is certain, there is enough there to argue for this. Whether Waltz threw that in and QT liked it or it was deliberately part of the artistic intent, it is a great scene - as are virtually all the other scenes. It is not as great a complete work as Pulp Fiction or OUATIH because it suffers from a bit of unevenness here and there, but the peaks of this film are as good as anything Quentin has done. Ever.
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