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Inglourious Basterds question

Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:28 am
Posted by Tic44
Neville
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:28 am
In the opening scene, Do you think that Landa killed the Dairy Farmer after he initially lied to him about hiding enemies of the state? I for one think he did not, but I could see if he did.

Anyway, what are your thoughts?
Posted by atrain5
Baton Rouge Correctional Facility
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:30 am to
Good hypothetical. I could see both ways, but I would like to think he let him go.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:31 am to
No, especially given how outraged Landa was when Aldo shot Herman. Landa enjoys the hunt more than the kill. If he was known to kill the people who harbored Jews, they’d never give them up. Plus Landa knowingly let Shoshana go when they could have pretty easily caught up with her so he could hunt her another day.

The bigger question is did he know who Shoshana was at the lunch/strudel scene. I believe he did and was planning to be a sick frick to Zoeller by directly exposing her in front of the High Command, but once he knew the Basterds were coming, he realized he had much bigger fish to fry than her.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 11:47 am
Posted by Tic44
Neville
Member since May 2015
1581 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:35 am to
quote:

No, especially given how outraged Landa was when Aldo shot Herman. Landa enjoys the hunt more than the kill. If he was known to kill the people who harbored Jews, they’d never give them up.


He said to the farmer that if he told him that he was hiding them, it would be met with a reward not punishment. It doesn't mean that he didn't kill him. It may have been a tactic he used.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:36 am to
He only hunted Jews

Probably let the farmer off with a good beating
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:41 am to
quote:

He said to the farmer that if he told him that he was hiding them, it would be met with a reward not punishment. It doesn't mean that he didn't kill him. It may have been a tactic he used.


My point is if Landa developed the reputation of being not a man to his word then he would not have given them up. In the scene he directly compares himself to Heydrich, by all accounts the very worst of the Nazis, and says unlike Heydrich who hates his nickname the Hangman, Landa loves his as The Jew Hunter.

What’s he’s implicitly and cheerfully saying to the farmer is he is even worse than Heydrich, which gives him an idea what kind of fate was in store for him should he not comply. So no, I’m 99.9% confident he let him off with the mere instruction to bury the bodies himself and that the state won’t reimburse him for the floorboards his men shot up.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:43 am to
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The bigger question is did he know who Shoshana was at the lunch/strudel scene.
the ambiguity of whether or not he recognized her (or figured out who she was) is what makes the scene so terrifying
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:45 am to
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the ambiguity of whether or not he recognized her (or figured out who she was) is what makes the scene so terrifying


Yeah, that one I’m still 50/50 on thinking one is just as likely as the other. This one though with the farmer I’m positive he didn’t do anything to them further.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34863 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:45 am to
I feel like I read at some point they filmed that scene twice, one with him recognizing her and one with him not knowing who she was. Then mixed and matched shots, making it even more nerve racking not knowing.
Posted by Sticker1971
Member since Dec 2017
1449 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:46 am to
He only saw her from behind. No way he knew it was her. No way.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:48 am to
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He only saw he from behind. No way he knew it was her. No way.


You’re wrong for a very simple reason: photographs. He sure as shite saw one of those.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34863 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:49 am to
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You’re wrong for a very simple reason: photographs. He sure as shite saw one of those.



Yea he knew her name, he absolutely had seen a picture of her before going to the cabin.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2951 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:52 am to
He did not kill the farmer after he gave him what he wanted.

As far as recognizing her, we are made to believe he may have, but the cat and mouse game she is playing only works if he doesn't know who she is but she is risking all by trying to kill them. Plus, if he did know at that point, he would shut it down before it started. Why would he risk it going further?
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Plus, if he did know at that point, he would shut it down before it started. Why would he risk it going further?


Because Landa is a sick frick who likes to play with his food before eating it. He intentionally let Shoshana go once, and now he knows where she is. Plus he could use her to humiliate Zoeller who he thinks stood up to him, and humiliate him in front of the High Command no less. If he knew who she was and the Basterds didn’t show up, that was almost certainly Landa’s evil and petty plan.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:59 am to
The Landa and Dairy Farmer scene is to me, one of the greatest in the history of Cinema.

It's blasphemy, but I think it's right up there with Quint's USS Indianapolis scene in Jaws.

I thank GOD that Leo Decaprio didn't get the role (if the rumors are true).
Posted by Sticker1971
Member since Dec 2017
1449 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 12:03 pm to
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The Landa and Dairy Farmer scene is to me, one of the greatest in the history of Cinema.


He ain’t wrong!!

And he killed his arse. Landa was unpredictable. He shot him and raped his daughters too.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115484 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

The bigger question is did he know who Shoshana was at the lunch/strudel scene.


He at least suspected.

Which is why he made a big deal about the crème: it’s not kosher.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Which is why he made a big deal about the crème: it’s not kosher.


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Which is why he made a big deal about the crème: it’s not kosher.


Really? I did not catch that. I knew that you can’t mix milk products with meat, but didn’t think it qualified with a pastry. Makes the scene all the more appalling. With that I think he at least suspected it.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Tic44
Neville
Member since May 2015
1581 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

And he killed his arse. Landa was unpredictable. He shot him and raped his daughters too.


Unlikely
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