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re: IGN's 100 Greatest Sci-Fi Movies of All-Time

Posted on 8/1/16 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 8:47 pm to
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But, 2001 and A Clockwork Orange(didn't notice it on the list before) are both unwatchable messes. 2001 is definitely not as bad as ACO. I'll give it that.


Let me write you down as someone's opinion on film I will never take seriously. They're both masterpieces and Clockwork would probably make my Top 10. The shots, tension, and themes in both films are nearly unrivaled. They're Kubrick's 2 best films (with only Dr Strangelove as a challenger).

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Neither are really in the same subgenre, but just throwing them out there because they are both more worthy of that list than 2001.


Ok, so the most influential sci-fi film of all time doesn't deserve to be on the Top 100 Sci-Fi films of all time list. Save for Metropolis and a very few others sprinkled in, it influenced every single entry on that list. Aside from some saying Metropolis, I don't think any major filmmaker would dispute that 2001 is the greatest sci-fi film of all time.
This post was edited on 8/1/16 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 8:49 pm to
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2 movies I can name that didn't even make the list that are far superior to 2001 in every way are:
1.The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
2. Pandorum



Oh my.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 8:53 pm to
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2001 and A Clockwork Orange(didn't notice it on the list before) are both unwatchable messes.





Stick with Transformers, baw.

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1.The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
2. Pandorum



Definitely.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 8:55 pm to
this has to be a troll post
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 9:27 pm to
Can't help it man. I actually love sci fi and pretty much every subgenre of sci fi. I can't say I've watched every single film on the list,but I've watched most of them. And I don't have a problem with any of them on the list...except for those 2 turds.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 9:34 pm to
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Stick with Transformers, baw


First Transformers was fun to watch because of the effects and Megan Fox. But the rest were crap.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 9:42 pm to
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Can't help it man. I actually love sci fi and pretty much every subgenre of sci fi. I can't say I've watched every single film on the list,but I've watched most of them. And I don't have a problem with any of them on the list...except for those 2 turds.



Then I can just about assure you, your favorite films on the list wouldn't exist at all. Here's what Lucas had to say about 2001:

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Stanley Kubrick made the ultimate science fiction movie, and it is going to be very hard for someone to come along and make a better movie, as far as I'm concerned. On a technical level, it can be compared, but personally I think that '2001' is far superior.


So, yeah, one of the primary influences of almost every sci fi movie ever made is clearly shite.
This post was edited on 8/1/16 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 9:47 pm to
Every greatest of all time athlete, movie, musician,etc. was was influenced by something or someone. But, that doesn't make the "influencer" great.
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:00 pm to
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Long plodding pointless scenes.


You didn't get the point. They weren't pointless.

I kind of hate the "you just didn't get it" critique of other's taste, but seriously, you just didn't get it. It went over your head. There is a lot of deliberate depth that you are missing out on. It still might not be your cup of tea, but that is a far cry from what you are claiming.
This post was edited on 8/1/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:00 pm to
Yeah, you're a troll.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:12 pm to
I got it. I really did. The point of many of the scenes were made and yet were dragged on and on. Sloppy. And I have no problem with long marathon type movies. But, I don't appreciate movies that are long for the sake of being long.
What makes it worse is that the story was very good for the most part. The making of the film is what is so terrible.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:15 pm to
Wrath oh Khan too low
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:17 pm to
Back to the Future is #1 for me
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:19 pm to
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I got it. I really did


No, you didn't. And I can tell by your criticism. You wouldn't be making your criticism if you actually understood it, seeing as you are criticizing the point.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:22 pm to
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No, you didn't. And I can tell by your criticism. You wouldn't be making your criticism if you actually understood it, seeing as you are criticizing the point.


Enlighten me.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:44 pm to
I understand your struggle, but that's like judging The Godfather 1 & 2 and The Indiana Jones trilogy based on what comes next...
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 11:05 pm to
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But, 2001 and A Clockwork Orange(didn't notice it on the list before) are both unwatchable messes




You don't have to love or like these movies, but to claims them as "unwatchable" and terrible messes, just know no one on here is going to take you seriously anymore
This post was edited on 8/1/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 11:08 pm to
Interstellar??
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 11:50 pm to
Not a bad list. There are a couple I might have added and a few I think are terribly overrated, but that's just opinion.

I've seen all but 17 of these, incidentally. I counted. Does that make me a nerd?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/2/16 at 6:44 am to
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I understand your struggle, but that's like judging The Godfather 1 & 2 and The Indiana Jones trilogy based on what comes next...


While I get this point, G1 and G2 were close in time and thematically related. The Indiana Jones sequels had enough time between Last Crusade and Indiana Jones and WTF Does Indy have to do with Russians and Aliens? - much easier to separate the wheat from the chaff.

The Matrix sequels were like watching train wrecks. And that was a trilogy by design - the last 2 were released the same year.
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