re: IGN's 100 Greatest Sci-Fi Movies of All-Time

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Sci-fi really needs to address the conditions of humanity at large and be a major study of who we are. Star Wars is just a fun time at the movies.

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Gonna have to disagree on both points. What sci Fi "has to be" is a little too subjective to be defined in the way you are trying to. In addition, Empire absolutely made me consider the human condition on a very personal level.

Uhhh, no Hg Wells time machine from 1960?
Criminal!

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The Matrix at 24?

Top 10 IMO. Very broad use of Sci-Fi

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Yeah. That movie was ground breaking visually, well scripted, superb in tone and setting, well acted, and unique. It was also one of the best uses of speculative science fiction in film history. How it isn't higher is beyond me.

Never understood why 2001 is held in such high esteem. It is worse than a bad movie. It's unwatchable.

I understand some of the effects were groundbreaking, and the could've been interesting. But way the movie was put together was awful. Long plodding pointless scenes. Ambiguous and abstract story points. The movie had potential and wound up being terrible.

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The Matrix at 24? Top 10 IMO. Very broad use of Sci-Fi

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You know what killed The Matrix's place in film history, particularly within SciFi?

The Wachowski sisters' insistence in going off the trails on a crazy train, and not in a good way, for chapter 2 and 3.

Regardless of how good I think The Matrix is (I thought it was a stunning combination of action and science fiction, and not superficially a science fiction setting, but those questions that great science fiction forces to address - What does it mean to be human? What is our place in the universe? What is existence and sentience? What if we make machines that are smarter and more capable than we are?) - it is eroded as a film because I know what comes next.

Ignore the plebs, they have no idea what good film making is. He's almost certainly never enjoyed a silent film and probably prefers picking his belly button over Chopin. Pity them if you must but you must never humor their frivolous ideas.

The omega man!!

What is sci-fi about Empire?

You can go through that Top 100 and pull out the real Sci-fi movies and the list is cut to about 30 films.

Just shows you the dearth of movies we have for such a great genre.

God knows why, they have tons of material from all those Sci-fi mags from yesteryear.

Serenity is way underrated. For those who are touting the more thoughtful aspects of science fiction, remember:

Serenity is set in the future, after "Earth that was" became unlivable. The culture and language is a mashup of American English and Chinese. All the habitable planets are terraformed, and the Reaver situation was due to government manipulation of the atmosphere, to provide for a more "peaceful and happy" populace.

There's more going on than what you initially catch

Hard for me to actually rank my favorites. It could actually change daily. It's a very subjective list. But, 2001 and A Clockwork Orange(didn't notice it on the list before) are both unwatchable messes. 2001 is definitely not as bad as ACO. I'll give it that.

2 movies I can name that didn't even make the list that are far superior to 2001 in every way are:
1.The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
2. Pandorum

Neither are really in the same subgenre, but just throwing them out there because they are both more worthy of that list than 2001.

Edit: Dark City is way too low.