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re: I might like X-Men better than the Avengers

Posted on 3/15/19 at 1:02 am to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 1:02 am to
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Just think what it’ll be like when they face off on the big screen. Rest assured, it’s coming


I'd like to see on film the interaction between Captain America and a certain older gentlemen who, as a young jewish boy, was rescued from Birkenau by him.

There's MANY instances in the comics in which Magneto has an almost reverence for Steve Rogers because of what he did despite him being human.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 1:04 am
Posted by cable
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 1:12 am to
Dark Phoenix would reck Captain Marvel
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 1:20 am to
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Dark Phoenix would reck Captain Marvel


Well obviously. Dark Phoenix = Binary + Onslaught
Posted by Al R Bammer
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 5:02 am to
Sophie Turner's fine arse vs Scarlett Johansson awesome one
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:36 am to
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Wonder if he could control Thor's hammer?


He could and has in the comics.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:42 am to
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Captain Marvel


It will easily hit $600 million this weekend. Well on its way to $1 billion.

You going to make it?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:50 am to
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Dark Phoenix would reck Captain Marvel




Anywhere but the box office.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:07 am to
Is theis the cool thing to do now? claim streaky movie series with a couple really good movies and a buch og less than mediocre movies, is better then a movie series that continually out does itself and anything else in the genre?

Sure Logan was good, DOFP was decent. But non of those did what Avengers, and IW have done. Avengers was the first uber successful movie that took main characters from 4 major movies and put them all on the same screen and did it almost flawlessly. and IW magnified that by putting characters from 17 movies and do it better than Avengers.

This is soley based on the Films. i did not read or floow any of the marvel characters before the movies. But i did watch the X Men cartoons back in the day. They were good. But if you want to compare the Ninja Turtles was way better than Xmen.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:09 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:11 am to
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He could and has in the comics.

a quick google search proves and disproves your statement.

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In the regular Marvel Universe, he cannot lift it from the ground, as it is held there by enchantment so that only he/she that is worthy can lift it. But once it is off the ground, he can control it, as in the below examples. In the Ultimate Universe, he has lifted it (see last example).

This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:19 am to
I was not the biggest fan of Avengers 1. It just doesn't have a lot of plot beyond good guys team up to take down bad guy. Way too many tone deaf quipy one liners. I am glad Joss Whedon was replaced by the Russos.

Almost because of its simplicity though, it's a highly re-watchable film that doesn't depend on previous films to understand or really spend much of any time setting up events that occur in future films.

That said, I probably enjoyed watching The Amazing Spiderman in theaters more than Avengers 1. I know that's really weird.

Part of this though is why I hate Marvel Studios bringing virtually all their properties under their umbrella. The X-Men franchise was very flawed, but it had a totally different tone than Marvel Studios. The same can be said with The Amazing Spiderman films.

In this age of all the superheroes existing in one universe, I also kind of appreciate the simplicity of having one hero or team of heroes being the centerpoint of the world.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:26 am to
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In this age of all the superheroes existing in one universe, I also kind of appreciate the simplicity of having one hero or team of heroes being the centerpoint of the world.



This is often true, and the incongruence of the X-Men and the Avengers in the comics is pretty obvious. (Why do non-altered humans care so much about mutants when all sorts of strange things are running around.)

However, I feel like Feige is trying to "reconstruct" the Marvel universe in a different medium, and while i think a straight adaptation of the comics tot he screen with the Avengers and X- Men won't work, I have a feeling he's going to either 1) Put the X-Men in a different Universe and start the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse or 2) Find a clever way to incorporate it all in a logical sense.

Look what he did with the Infinity Stones and all of the stories leading up to Endgame. He took pieces of the Ultimate Verse, 616, etc. from different time periods (Cap 1 being almost a straight Kirby Cap film, WS being straight Brubaker) and tied it all together. That's his real gift.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by SSpaniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:27 am to
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Dark Phoenix would reck Captain Marvel


Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:28 am to
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And Mystique was a terrible character to build around. Just awful.


Jennifer Lawrence career took off after first class, so Fox tried capitalizing on that. I agree, it was not a smart decision. I didn't think she was bad in First Class. I actually liked her and McAvoy's relationship.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:37 am to
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Jennifer Lawrence career took off after first class, so Fox tried capitalizing on that. I agree, it was not a smart decision. I didn't think she was bad in First Class. I actually liked her and McAvoy's relationship.


She wasn't bad from an acting perspective, and yes her relationship with Charles is pretty interesting.

But in terms of being the center of the world, she doesn't have the gravitas as a character. And she isn't important enough. Charles always needed a Scott when he was alive and a Logan when he wasn't. The films did neither.
Posted by Red5LSU
Knoxville
Member since Aug 2011
494 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:03 am to
I watched the animated X-Men series in the 90s, so I always preferred X-Men over most comic book characters. But the Avengers and the MCU movies as a whole are amazing. The X-Men movies are great, but compared to the MCU, MCU wins that battle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:06 am to
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And Mystique was a terrible character to build around. Just awful.

it was really bad luck that Lawrence blew the frick up and they basically had to make her top billing
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57459 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:10 am to
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it was really bad luck that Lawrence blew
ive seen her butthole.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51639 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:11 am to
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Is theis the cool thing to do now? claim streaky movie series with a couple really good movies and a buch og less than mediocre movies, is better then a movie series that continually out does itself and anything else in the genre?


Why is that shocking to you? News flash, tons of people prefer Fox over MCU. Fox has had some horrible films, but the their best (X2, Logan, DOFP, FC) are good as any.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:16 am to
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The two above actually have character development, and allow for a story to unfold.


There was little character development in DFOP.
It was hot garbage.

The X-Men are, as Deadpool put it are “a tired civil right allegory from the 60s”.

The team is literally in place because they share a gene(or a Jean) not ideals. Identity politics.

The Avengers have always been big brother (in universe)and will remain big brother.

The most interesting mutants, except Scott, usually wind up on better teams.

SW, Quicksilver, Logan, and Hank- Avengers
Xavier and Hank-Illuminati
Storm joined the F4.

And so on.



Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57459 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:27 am to
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The X-Men are, as Deadpool put it are “a tired civil right allegory from the 60s”.

The team is literally in place because they share a gene(or a Jean) not ideals. Identity politics.
yep.
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