re: I just finished The Empire Strikes Back...there's nothing in the prequels...

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When Empire came out there was no internet, no spoilers, and that twist was the biggest bomb dropped in movie history.

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ESB invented the boom.

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You can laugh about it all you want,

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Thank you.

It was a huge moment, but seriously, how old are you?

I like Empire, but it invented nothing. That's why it falls short of Star Wars, which invented the modern blockbuster. Some would argue that Jaws did this, but while it's an iconic film, I don't think it had nearly the cultural impact. I mean, as bad as the prequels were, they still made a fortune trading on the OT, and they are still a lot better than Jaws 4 in 4D.

Disney trash can rub their dicks together all day. They will never duplicate the magnitude of STAR WARS.

A New Hope - plot wise - was just a rehash of 50 million other stories. Nothing special.

Then Empire

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I don't. The dialog is a million times better, the cast is better with Guiness and the story is far more compelling, with a far more satisfying climax.

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The dialog isn't better, it's more well shot, the cast is the exact fricking same with the addition of Billie Dee Williams and Yoda, the story is clearly aimless which I said and is a good thing, and Empire probably has the single most satisfying climax of any movie I can think of. You're talking shite.

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I can get "I am your father" from Days of Our Lives, and "laser brained nerf herder" while slightly funny, is pretty bad.

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Clearly trolling.

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I love it. Its crippling shortcomings are actually why it's so great.

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It's the second act. The Godfather Part II or the Two Towers doesn't either.

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So Back to the Future 2 and Matrix 2 were the best in their series, huh?

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Did you miss the "often" part of my quote. The second chapter is harder to pull off than the first.

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blueboy

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condescending bullshite

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The lines are better, which is why so many more of them are quoted to this day

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ESB has the two best lines in all of Star Wars.

"No, I am your father"

"I love you" "I know"

Other than orginality, I can't think of a single thing that A New Hope does better than Empire Strikes Back.

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ESB has the two best lines in all of Star Wars.

"No, I am your father"

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That must be why it's always misquoted.

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A New Hope - plot wise - was just a rehash of 50 million other stories. Nothing special.

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Sure, you're right. If you consider plot and acting, Empire is far more advanced. From that aspect of "movie", it is. But it still wasn't groundbreaking, there were plenty of acting portrayals, and convoluted intriguing plots that surpass it in cinema history, that came out before it did.

Star Wars (ep 4, A New Hope, however you refer to it)- is a milestone unlike any other in the series.
You can take milestones, like the first motion picture, the first talkie (instead of silent movies with captioning), the first Technicolor instead of black and white, and Star Wars is in that group. The way Disney just amazed audiences with Snow White, something never seen before, or even imagined; Star Wars is the live action equivalent. It was the first to give you visual effects that could match what you imagined, with no compromises. No herky jerky motion, no scaled-back suggestions, but actual visual imagery that meshed believably with the actors, to where the viewer is not truly aware what was "real" and what wasn't. It ended the concept of "you can't do that with live action, it must be animated".

Disney surpassed Snow White with later movies like Sleeping Beauty, just as Empire surpassed Star Wars. But it was an advancement within the "Star Wars" genre of film-making, not a new genre.
Marvel's superhero movies, the Jurassic Park movies, the LOTR fantasies, none of these are "new" concepts, and you can find many movies from decades ago that match scripts, and acting performances. But you'd either watch a cartoon, or have movies with clearly not-real effects that you just accepted. Skeletons and dinosaurs that that now look laughably fake, a guy with a cape lying on a table with a fan blowing on him to simulate flight, etc.
Star Wars was the point in film-making that brought the change about, that made filmmakers say "hey, we can do that with our concepts too".
It's why ILM is the premier effects company in the business.

This isn't bashing Empire at all. Just pointing out that while Empire may be considered the better film in a viewing now, you didn't come away from the first viewing utterly shocked by what you just experienced... and you DID with Star Wars.