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re: I didn't like Sicario. It kinda sucked.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 3:43 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 1/26/16 at 3:43 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I am not of the belief that Alejandro raped Guillermo in the interrogation. Kind of strange that so many people think that. Would be totally random and odd if that is really what was supposed to be going on in that scene.
Benicio del Toro's character DEFINITELY raped that guy.
You can hear the grunting, they show the dry floor drain, and the UNOPENED bottle of water as they end the scene.
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 3:59 pm to Lester Earl
quote:+1 million. I said the exact same thing after I watched it. She was the biggest problem I had with the movie. That and the fact that I had just finished reading Don Winslow's "The Power of the Dog" and "The Cartel". Those two books do a much better job of showing what is going on in the war on drugs. Sicario felt very Hollywoodish and almost touchy-feely by comparison
I thought Emily Blunt was miscast. The buildup was kinda of slow, i agree, but I think had they picked her character better(perhaps a man?), it would have flowed more. She just ruined every scene she was in and she wasnt convincing as a LEO at all.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:26 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Benicio del Toro's character DEFINITELY raped that guy.
So just because there are guttural sounds coming from the torturee, you are calling a "definite" on this? Those sounds could have originated from a number of things.
There are no sounds of Alejandro's belt being unbuckled or a zipper going down. We know nothing concerning Alejandro's character that would lead us to believe that he has homosexual tendencies.
It just would be totally random and would not make sense if he raped him. There is also nothing in the original script that indicates any kind of rape during that scene. Just because the bottle is unopened, and the drain dry does not mean he was not preparing to waterboard him.
He waterboarded him.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:03 pm to Funky Tide 8
I believe he anally raped him with the water bottle. That makes most sense.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:08 pm to Dire Wolf
I said it was meh and got ripped
Emily Blunts character was god awful. Everyone would reply with, "dude you're nuts, she's so hot!" That's not what I said. Of course she's hot, her character sucked. So did her black friend
Del Toro and Brolin stole the movie. I gave it a B.
Emily Blunts character was god awful. Everyone would reply with, "dude you're nuts, she's so hot!" That's not what I said. Of course she's hot, her character sucked. So did her black friend
Del Toro and Brolin stole the movie. I gave it a B.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:47 pm to dallastiger55
I really enjoyed it, but I can totally see how Blunt's character would have kind of ruined for someone.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:30 pm to dallastiger55
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Emily Blunts character was god awful. Everyone would reply with, "dude you're nuts, she's so hot!"
No one has said that.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:08 am to Funky Tide 8
Bro, he raped him.
Alejandro made a big show of carrying around the water jug so everyone would think he was going to water board him (which is still out of bounds).
They say, "welcome to Yankee hell" at first, which would be water boarding, but then they laugh and say, "no, Medellin hell" which implies something much worse as the camera is very intentional in showing that there is no water going down the drain.
Alejandro made a big show of carrying around the water jug so everyone would think he was going to water board him (which is still out of bounds).
They say, "welcome to Yankee hell" at first, which would be water boarding, but then they laugh and say, "no, Medellin hell" which implies something much worse as the camera is very intentional in showing that there is no water going down the drain.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 5:43 am to dallastiger55
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I said it was meh and got ripped Emily Blunts character was god awful. Everyone would reply with, "dude you're nuts, she's so hot!" That's not what I said. Of course she's hot, her character sucked. So did her black friend
No. People ripped you because you missed the entire reason why she was in the movie in the first place
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:30 am to RabidTiger
Didn't he stick his junk in the guy's face when he walked in? I never thought he raped him, until I read that on here. But that kind of makes sense now looking back.
I really like the movie. The whole crossing the border, picking up the guy, crossing back/shootout was a great sequence. I couldn't look away the whole time and it took a good 20 minutes. I don't know if was realistic or not, but it was fun to watch..
I really like the movie. The whole crossing the border, picking up the guy, crossing back/shootout was a great sequence. I couldn't look away the whole time and it took a good 20 minutes. I don't know if was realistic or not, but it was fun to watch..
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:57 am to Biggereztiger
Am I the only one who got the impression that this movie was completely different from what the TV spots portrayed? My sister, brother-in-law, and myself were all pleasantly surprised when we watched this. From the TV spots I got the impression that this movie was supposed to be a mystery centered on Del Toro's character and whether he's a corrupt agent or isn't who he says he is or something. While he clearly has a side to him that's a mystery he wasn't at all an antagonist like the TV spots portrayed.
I was a little bored with that idea which is why I didn't have much interest in seeing this movie to begin with. Then all the reviews came in, and others talked about how great it was. I have to say this movie was a kick arse surprise. It may have been "slow" in the sense that there weren't a bunch of action scenes but it was extremely suspenseful (oh my god that border scene). And I think the score really added to the suspense. It created such a great sense of dread and foreboding throughout the entire film.
I love Track 08 on the soundtrack. When the cello kicks in I kept thinking this is like Jaws on steroids and speed. Interestingly enough, I just watched the extras about the score and the director says he had the idea of Jaws in mind when he was looking for a composer.
I was a little bored with that idea which is why I didn't have much interest in seeing this movie to begin with. Then all the reviews came in, and others talked about how great it was. I have to say this movie was a kick arse surprise. It may have been "slow" in the sense that there weren't a bunch of action scenes but it was extremely suspenseful (oh my god that border scene). And I think the score really added to the suspense. It created such a great sense of dread and foreboding throughout the entire film.
I love Track 08 on the soundtrack. When the cello kicks in I kept thinking this is like Jaws on steroids and speed. Interestingly enough, I just watched the extras about the score and the director says he had the idea of Jaws in mind when he was looking for a composer.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 6:59 am
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:50 am to Biggereztiger
i thought it was okay, nothing great. I didn't care much for Training Day either though. Maybe I hate cop movies. I did like End of Watch though.
ETA: Can some one tell me how the name of the movie is pronounced? Sick a rio? Sis a row? Si CAR io?
ETA: Can some one tell me how the name of the movie is pronounced? Sick a rio? Sis a row? Si CAR io?
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:57 am to RabidTiger
quote:
Alejandro made a big show of carrying around the water jug so everyone would think he was going to water board him
This is pure speculation.
quote:
"welcome to Yankee hell" at first, which would be water boarding, but then they laugh and say, "no, Medellin hell" which implies something much worse
Can you explain this further as to why you think "Medellin hell"= rape? That is something that you just made up.
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is very intentional in showing that there is no water going down the drain.
When you waterboard someone you don't immediately open up a jug of water, and start trying to shove it down a person's throat. Again, there is nothing even in the script that says anything about rape.
He puts his crotch in his face as a show of dominance and power.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:03 am to Biggereztiger
This board loves Sicario. I also didnt care for it though. There were just a bad few scenes that kinda left me laughing and kinda made me not be able to take it seriously.
Ive thought about it a lot and would probably watch it again, but for me, the idiotic scene of the locked trap basement door blowing up just set the tone of the movie. From that point I couldnt take it seriously.
Ill probably rewatch at some point but start like 10 minutes in.
Ive thought about it a lot and would probably watch it again, but for me, the idiotic scene of the locked trap basement door blowing up just set the tone of the movie. From that point I couldnt take it seriously.
Ill probably rewatch at some point but start like 10 minutes in.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:04 am to DollaChoppa
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the idiotic scene of the locked trap basement door blowing up just set the tone of the movie.
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:14 am to Funky Tide 8
scene: two dudes in an outdoor shed/garage
man 1: moves rug from ground
man 2: grabs and fiddles with lock
me: oh geez, i hope they dont try to open this when the walls of the house were filled with bodies of dead people
man: WE NEED SOME BOLTCUTTERS
me: are you serious? just random dudes gonna break it open and go in all pell-mell? no bomb sniffing dogs or extra caution??
some dude runs over with bolt cutters
EXPLOSION
me: ffs. and im supposed to believe these guys are FBI/SWAT?
eta:
That was easily the worst scene from the movie. Unfortunately it was at the beginning and made me biased towards it. Like I said, I think id like it mroe if i rewatched and ignored that scene.
man 1: moves rug from ground
man 2: grabs and fiddles with lock
me: oh geez, i hope they dont try to open this when the walls of the house were filled with bodies of dead people
man: WE NEED SOME BOLTCUTTERS
me: are you serious? just random dudes gonna break it open and go in all pell-mell? no bomb sniffing dogs or extra caution??
some dude runs over with bolt cutters
EXPLOSION
me: ffs. and im supposed to believe these guys are FBI/SWAT?
eta:
That was easily the worst scene from the movie. Unfortunately it was at the beginning and made me biased towards it. Like I said, I think id like it mroe if i rewatched and ignored that scene.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 11:16 am
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:35 am to DollaChoppa
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me: ffs. and im supposed to believe these guys are FBI/SWAT?
If you ever watched The Following than it is very believable.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:39 am to DollaChoppa
quote:
me: are you serious? just random dudes gonna break it open and go in all pell-mell? no bomb sniffing dogs or extra caution??
some dude runs over with bolt cutters
EXPLOSION
me: ffs. and im supposed to believe these guys are FBI/SWAT?
I kind of just figured that they thought that there might have been hostages in there, since that was why they were there in the first place? Time is precious when you potentially have live hostages locked in a cellar in the desert. Kind of nit-picky iyam.
Now if you had a big problem with them hiding 40 bodies in the wall, and the city of Pheonix not smelling like dead bodies, then I agree, that did not make sense.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:42 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Now if you had a big problem with them hiding 40 bodies in the wall, and the city of Pheonix not smelling like dead bodies, then I agree, that did not make sense.
Residents of Phoenix just thought a lot of Mexicans were there, which was technically true.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:09 pm to PsychTiger
I don't really consider Del Toro a "villian" per say.
Just a tool and a brutally blunt one, shaped from tragedy.
It's this and the Revenent for me with Sicario getting the nod because of Del Toro. Utter bullshite he isn't up for best supporting actor.
Blunt's character is SUPPOSED to annoy the frick out of you. She nailed it perfectly and Brolin was the perfect oil to her vinegar.
GD some of you are dense as frick.
There is an interview where Del Torro makes a joke about how his presence is supposed to be "penetrating". That makes me think he did rape him, although I agree with the earlier poster that is is speculatory and kind of unnecessary overall.
Just a tool and a brutally blunt one, shaped from tragedy.
It's this and the Revenent for me with Sicario getting the nod because of Del Toro. Utter bullshite he isn't up for best supporting actor.
Blunt's character is SUPPOSED to annoy the frick out of you. She nailed it perfectly and Brolin was the perfect oil to her vinegar.
GD some of you are dense as frick.
There is an interview where Del Torro makes a joke about how his presence is supposed to be "penetrating". That makes me think he did rape him, although I agree with the earlier poster that is is speculatory and kind of unnecessary overall.
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