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How do they write Symbolism?

Posted on 1/27/11 at 5:10 pm
Posted by The Claw
Annapolis
Member since Jan 2011
426 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 5:10 pm
I would like to write a piece of fiction one day, but I only see scenes in my head. While dialog is important, I feel its the subtleties that are more important in staging the message, everything going on in the background. If I point it out then it becomes preaching/hokey versus finding it/becoming aware.

Example: A scene from Fight Club
min 7:45-8:05

here's the script:

quote:

EXT. LARGE PARKING LOT - DAY

Jack and Tyler, in work gloves, armed with TOOLS, work
together to lift the entire METAL PLATE of EXIT SPIKES from
the ground. They reverse it, then replace it.

MOMENTS LATER

Jack and Tyler walk away, each carrying a 4x4 plank of WOOD.

JACK
There's fight club in Delaware City.

TYLER
I heard. Local 15, Monday nights.

As they pass PARKED CARS, they SWING the planks against
front bumpers -- activating ALARMS and INFLATING AIR BAGS...


JACK
Local 8 just started in Penns Grove.
And, Bob said he was at fight club in
Newcastle last week.

TYLER
Newcastle? Did you start that one?

JACK
I thought you did.

In the background, a CAR quickly EXITS the parking lot --
front tires EXPLODING, wheel rims throwing sparks.



The script doesn't complete the scene. If you notice they hit a BMW, bypass what looks like a toyota/honda/kia, and then hit a VW bug.

Pit waves off Norton from hitting the 2nd vehicle. I interpreted this to mean that they were hurting/destroying that which people used to identify themselves. ie BMW Rich/Power person, VW Bug Hippy/Fun person.

You can comment on the scene or if you have experience in writing a couple helpful tips.

I was a business major and have had Zero training in writing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477881 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 5:20 pm to
draw out what you see in story boards then describe each story board

then try to connect these comments into 1 small narrative
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30529 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 5:30 pm to
yes, write the skeleton of the story out first. Nothing pisses me off more than writers writing themselves into a corner and the ending feels completely forced.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38712 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

How do they write Symbolism?


Some say symbolism is a product of our environment/social situations (Foucault), some say it is a product of our psyche (Lacan by way of Jung), some say it is a class/political structure (Marxists), some think that every symbol is essentially the same thing in a different skin (Campbell), some think symbolism is a misrepresentation of itself (Derrida).

Granted these are mass generalizations, but the point is...

Don't try to write "symbolism" write what you know, and what you like...everything else will follow.

And Revise, Revise, Revise.
Posted by The Claw
Annapolis
Member since Jan 2011
426 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

draw out what you see in story boards then describe each story board


thank you, I hadn't thought about that. I just figured that you had to put down words, but making a comic makes more sense. Thanks
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477881 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 7:53 pm to
SFP: solutions for people
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

quote:
How do they write Symbolism?



Some say symbolism is a product of our environment/social situations (Foucault), some say it is a product of our psyche (Lacan by way of Jung), some say it is a class/political structure (Marxists), some think that every symbol is essentially the same thing in a different skin (Campbell), some think symbolism is a misrepresentation of itself (Derrida).

Granted these are mass generalizations, but the point is...

Don't try to write "symbolism" write what you know, and what you like...everything else will follow.


And Revise, Revise, Revise.


Might I ask where you got your film knowledge from?

Were you self-taught or did you go to a film academy/took a few credits in college?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38712 posts
Posted on 1/27/11 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

Might I ask where you got your film knowledge from?

Were you self-taught or did you go to a film academy/took a few credits in college?


Both self-taught and grad school.

Yes it was a complete waste of time in this day and age. Don't do it.
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