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How can someone tell if a show nowadays has flopped or not?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:40 pm
With streaming and pay services and all that. Is there some sort of rating service for that sort of thing?
Like this Acolyte show for instance. There's alot of bitching about it and it seems everyone thinks it sucks. Has it actually flopped or is it flopping? Is there some sort of Nielson service for stuff like this?
I wonder if it's actually doing poorly or not.
Like this Acolyte show for instance. There's alot of bitching about it and it seems everyone thinks it sucks. Has it actually flopped or is it flopping? Is there some sort of Nielson service for stuff like this?
I wonder if it's actually doing poorly or not.
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:42 pm to Pandy Fackler
if they renew it or not.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:48 pm to SammyTiger
Its streaming numbers are lower than Ashoka. It’s lowest streaming Star Wars series yet.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:48 pm to Pandy Fackler
They know how many times the show is opened in the app.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:51 pm to MightyYat
They know. We don’t. They can report whatever they want. You really think Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon movies are getting enough viewers for multiple extended cuts? More movies? Who knows. But Netflix wants you to think it does.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:13 pm to MightyYat
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They know how many times the show is opened in the app.
Ok. Is this sort of info released to the public? How does the public know if people are watching a show or not? Is there some sort of ratings system?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:15 pm to Pandy Fackler
I’d bet half of the viewership are hate watching. Sort of like the entertainment you get from watching a train wreck.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:16 pm to Pandy Fackler
Minutes viewed is the best indicator. All the new “ratings” are fake.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:20 pm to bluestem75
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Its streaming numbers are lower than Ashoka. It’s lowest streaming Star Wars series yet.
Does Disney release this info? How is this made public?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:23 pm to abellsujr
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They know. We don’t. They can report whatever they want. You really think Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon movies are getting enough viewers for multiple extended cuts? More movies? Who knows. But Netflix wants you to think it does.
This is probably the truth of it.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:26 pm to Pandy Fackler
To actually answer your question, Nielsen does track streaming numbers but it takes weeks for them to actually release them. The streaming services themselves do release viewer numbers but people either do or do not believe them depending on who's trying to win which side of an argument.
Ratings services like Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes are either trusted or not trusted depending on who's trying to win which side of an argument. Both have user scores that can be vulnerable to review bombing or review padding.
There is also a robust cottage industry of youtubers/podcasters/bloggers that seem to exist solely to drive outrage towards certain studios/IPs/actors/etc.
Ratings services like Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes are either trusted or not trusted depending on who's trying to win which side of an argument. Both have user scores that can be vulnerable to review bombing or review padding.
There is also a robust cottage industry of youtubers/podcasters/bloggers that seem to exist solely to drive outrage towards certain studios/IPs/actors/etc.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:27 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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I’d bet half of the viewership are hate watching. Sort of like the entertainment you get from watching a train wreck.
Well I asked gooble if the show has flopped or is flopping and I really didn't get any sort of a concrete answer.
I saw a blurb where 4.8 million people watched the first episode. That seems like alot. Sounds like the show is doing pretty well.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:31 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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To actually answer your question, Nielsen does track streaming numbers but it takes weeks for them to actually release them. The streaming services themselves do release viewer numbers but people either do or do not believe them depending on who's trying to win which side of an argument.
Ratings services like Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes are either trusted or not trusted depending on who's trying to win which side of an argument. Both have user scores that can be vulnerable to review bombing or review padding.
There is also a robust cottage industry of youtubers/podcasters/bloggers that seem to exist solely to drive outrage towards certain studios/IPs/actors/etc.
Ok. Well it's the viewer numbers that interest me. There's so much controversy with The Acolyte that I get the feeling mass quantities of people are watching it.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:32 pm to Madking
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Minutes viewed is the best indicator. All the new “ratings” are fake.
Neilsen ratings does release minutes viewed. Those numbers are extrapolated from sample audiences, like has always been done with ratings, but it does track minutes viewed. They also tend to be about a month behind I believe, so we won't know about the Acolyte for several more weeks. I'm not sure why it takes them so long to compile all the data.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:34 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Sounds like the show is doing pretty well.
It seems to be doing okay, which makes sense because as a show it is okay.
It's not particularly good or particularly bad. It's okay.
If you go on social media of any type you'll typically find a fairly balanced number of folks who either say "It's groundbreaking, incredible storytelling for the Star Wars universe!" or "It's absolutely the worst Star Wars product that ever been conceived!".
That's usually a pretty good indicator that its "okay".
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:34 pm to TigerinATL
You’re correct but they get their info from the service that puts out the content. In this instance they get it from Disney. 3rd party analytics is your best bet for accuracy.
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:34 pm to TigerinATL
Now that seems like a really good measure.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:38 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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It seems to be doing okay, which makes sense because as a show it is okay.
It's not particularly good or particularly bad. It's okay.
If you go on social media of any type you'll typically find a fairly balanced number of folks who either say "It's groundbreaking, incredible storytelling for the Star Wars universe!" or "It's absolutely the worst Star Wars product that ever been conceived!".
That's usually a pretty good indicator that its "okay".
So there's probably more hope that the show will flop than there is actual flopping.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
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So there's probably more hope that the show will flop than there is actual flopping.
Correct.
Balanced by a good amount of hope that show is succeeding than there is actual success.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:45 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Correct.
Balanced by a good amount of hope that show is succeeding than there is actual success.
My guess is that folks generally don't mind the wokish direction Disney is taking Star Wars nearly as much as this board wants to believe, but the numbers will tell the tale I suppose.
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