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re: House of the Dragon S1E5: “We Light The Way”--Official Thread;
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:27 am to Bronc
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:27 am to Bronc
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You forget, when GoT aired the culture warriors were too busy being up in arms about Muslims and Mexicans.
What?
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Now as the War on Terror has waned, Russia is suddenly an ally to half of the far right, and abortion is a losing issue, the outrage industry has turned back to the tried and true: black, woman, and gays.
What?
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I just imagine today if Lyanna Mormont showed up in House of The Dragon there would 1000 Youtube videos in a week crying and melting over "forced wokism"
What?
Nothing you wrote has anything to do with this show. Not Mexicans, Muslims, the right wing or Russia. Nobody has complained about blacks or women in episode threads. The gay stuff is overdone. The dialogue between Laenor and Rhaenyra was sufficient to get the point across. We don't need to see him and his boy toy canoodling on the beach. It's filler.
And no one would complain about Lyanna Mormont, she was pretty universally loved by GoT fans.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:30 am to Adajax
The whole wedding scene was so good even without any dialogue. Just everyone cutting daggers at certain people the whole time.
If they are jumping ahead, will we get resolution to the end scene where Alicent finds Criston before he kills himself?
I have to admit I was surprised at how quickly the Criston/Joffrey thing came to a head. I thought they'd let it fester for a bit, but I guess in the interest of time they needed to play it out.
If they are jumping ahead, will we get resolution to the end scene where Alicent finds Criston before he kills himself?
I have to admit I was surprised at how quickly the Criston/Joffrey thing came to a head. I thought they'd let it fester for a bit, but I guess in the interest of time they needed to play it out.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:33 am to Saint Alfonzo
Going to try and get this thread back on the rails with something everyone might appreciate...
How about that Laena Velaryon glow-up?
How about that Laena Velaryon glow-up?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:34 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Nothing you wrote has anything to do with this show. Not Mexicans, Muslims, the right wing or Russia. Nobody has complained about blacks or women in episode threads.
Some need a soapbox opportunity any time they can get it.
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The gay stuff is overdone. The dialogue between Laenor and Rhaenyra was sufficient to get the point across. We don't need to see him and his boy toy canoodling on the beach. It's filler.
Agreed
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And no one would complain about Lyanna Mormont, she was pretty universally loved by GoT fans.
Well written her parts, especially considering the history of her family. Not to mentioned she tried to take on a dead giant. Complete badass
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:35 am to sweetwaterbilly
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The whole wedding scene was so good even without any dialogue. Just everyone cutting daggers at certain people the whole time.
the music was great and created a tone just like in the Red Wedding. You knew something was about to happen even without the previews. So much tension form the start.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:37 am to TideWarrior
I think I'm decidedly Team Green 
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:41 am to sweetwaterbilly
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I think I'm decidedly Team Green
To Arms Then!
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:50 am to Boodis Man
I wouldn’t say any of it is about being “woke”. This was all written in the book over 10 years ago there’s nothing inherently “woke” about gay characters.
While I don’t think they were trying to be “woke” I don’t really understand casting Velaryons as black people to be honest. Because there comes a time when Rhaenyra and Laenor have children, if they don’t look mixed then people will know for certain they aren’t Laenor’s children. I think a number of the other houses could’ve been cast to serve that purpose if you just wanted more diversity.
While I don’t think they were trying to be “woke” I don’t really understand casting Velaryons as black people to be honest. Because there comes a time when Rhaenyra and Laenor have children, if they don’t look mixed then people will know for certain they aren’t Laenor’s children. I think a number of the other houses could’ve been cast to serve that purpose if you just wanted more diversity.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:52 am to Leonard
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How about that Laena Velaryon glow-up?
Young Laena
Older Laena
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:52 am to sweetwaterbilly
Think I’m team rhaenyra. Daemon is just too cool and I feel like Rhaenyra won’t hesitate to burn an army
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:54 am to ccsavage21
I actually was pretty disappointed about Rhea. She seemed pretty cool.. but Daemon wasn't having that She just had to get in that last little jab, though.
Him talking to her uncle was so savage though
She just had to get in that last little jab, though. Him talking to her uncle was so savage though
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:00 am to sweetwaterbilly
I thought Rhea’s “I knew you couldn’t finish” line was perfect considering we’ve seen Daemon have trouble finishing/keeping it up.
eta: now that I think about she went hard af on Daemon in the little time she had
eta: now that I think about she went hard af on Daemon in the little time she had
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 10:02 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:05 am to LuckySo-n-So
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New Rhaenyra and new Alicent tonight.
Nope
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:10 am to ccsavage21
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Think I’m team rhaenyra. Daemon is just too cool and I feel like Rhaenyra won’t hesitate to burn an army
Same
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:13 am to TideWarrior
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I fail to understand why it bothers so many of you that I question actually putting the gay scenes in the series or GoT when it never happened in the books. I have no issue with anyone being gay in the series but like the books you can imply something is happening and it will mean the same thing.
I don't like the gay stuff. I'd be perfectly fine without it. But you're saying you don't have to put implied stuff like that in the show, like they did with Loras Tyrell and Oberyn. Do you think they shouldn't have put the scene where Daemon basically goes to kill his wife because it was just implied that he did that? It's a book where countless amounts of stuff have to be added to make a cohesive story, of course they are going to put stuff in there that was implied but not explicitly said.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:14 am to AUcs13
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While I don’t think they were trying to be “woke” I don’t really understand casting Velaryons as black people to be honest. Because there comes a time when Rhaenyra and Laenor have children, if they don’t look mixed then people will know for certain they aren’t Laenor’s children. I think a number of the other houses could’ve been cast to serve that purpose if you just wanted more diversity.
i don't like it either but don't be naive...its hollywood and unfortunately forced diversity is going to be the norm moving forward so you might as well get used to it.
however, its clear from next episode's preview that they are using the angle about their kids not looking like the father, so it seems that they found a way to successfully fit this into the script.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:16 am to cgrand
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Not so much treason
Very much treason
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:21 am to iwyLSUiwy
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But you're saying you don't have to put implied stuff like that in the show, like they did with Loras Tyrell and Oberyn.
I will look back but I am pretty sure I did not say that and if I did not what I meant. I said like the books all you need to do is imply it. Like when they were walking on the beach that was enough to let everyone know the situation and no more was needed to add to the plot.
In GoT when Renley turned down his wife that was all that was needed. It added a new level to his arc.
The situation with Daemon at least in my eyes is one we have yet to see his wife and by his earlier mention we have to assume what she is like. But meeting her last night created a whole different image of her last night and would not have been the same if we never had met her. Now if they would have introduced her earlier in the show and then it could have been implied he killed her and had the same value. But we had not met her yet.
In regards to the overall idea as sex may sell to many and Hollywood tries to capitalize on it I understand some may enjoy but when all you need to do is imply what happened and will do the same thing it does noting for me to add it in. Again them walking together on the beach told me all I needed to know.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:21 am to Boodis Man
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however, its clear from next episode's preview that they are using the angle about their kids not looking like the father, so it seems that they found a way to successfully fit this into the script.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:26 am to Boodis Man
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however, its clear from next episode's preview that they are using the angle about their kids not looking like the father, so it seems that they found a way to successfully fit this into the script.
He's already mixed and very light skinned. His kids would be even more light skinned. Shouldn't be hard to pull off. Now if he looked like his daddy, then that's a different story
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