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re: House of the Dragon S1E2--Official Thread; “The Rogue Prince”

Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:39 pm to
Hes married to a targ
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Velaryons don't have dragons.


His wife does.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Anybody still trying to say that the king is a POS is really missing the point of his character


His character is weak. He doesn’t think shite through. And yes, not taking 2 seconds to explain to his wife the situation is still a POS move. Not sure how anyone could think otherwise.

Again, trying to save the baby was the right decision. Not telling her was fricked up. It ties into him not telling his daughter or anyone about marrying Alicent.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:51 pm to
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Hes married to a targ


So they have one dragon? that old busted bitcc ain't fighting anybody
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:54 pm to
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Not telling her was fricked up.


She knew there was a good probability she could die when having the baby. "The birthing bed is our battlefield". He didn't need to tell her. She knew what was going on. He didn't have time to sit there and explain it to her.

*They reinforced this when Daemon's hoe said she didnt want baby's due to the possibility of death when birthing.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:56 pm to
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I'm still here, though there was once again a shocking lack of titties.

You know there's an endless supply of these both on the internet and in real life right?
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Velaryons don't have dragons. They have ships. It's why the Targaryans are ruling and not them. Go back and listen to Corlys' speech to Daemon


Velaryons weren’t dragon riders, but his family has and rides dragons seeing as how he’s married to a Targ.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:02 pm to
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there was once again a shocking lack of titties.


They'd be hard pressed to battle Tyenne Martell and Margaery Tyrell in a war of tits.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:05 pm to
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but his family has and rides dragons seeing as how he’s married to a Targ.


Again... He has one maybe through his wife. She isn't mounting up and riding that thing into battle. The vast majority of the Targ family would side with the king right now no question. That one dragon wouldn't do shite.
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:13 pm to
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Of the children, ironically, only Jon inherited Ned's caution, but he was always the bastard and never the heir.


So much wut? in one sentence.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:14 pm to
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She knew there was a good probability she could die when having the baby. "The birthing bed is our battlefield". He didn't need to tell her.


Y’all keep saying this shite about the battlefield thing. Just because she understood giving birth was her role, and she could die from it, doesn’t mean he didn’t have to take a second to say she was in trouble but the baby could be saved. One has nothing to do with the other. I don’t understand how y’all don’t get that.

Not telling his wife, her reaction to what was happening, not being there for his daughter, not telling anyone about Alicent, not going after the pirates, letting Daemon do whatever he wants. All of these things are part of the bigger picture about the King. He is weak, and doesn’t consider how his decisions make him look to others.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Again... He has one maybe through his wife. She isn't mounting up and riding that thing into battle. The vast majority of the Targ family would side with the king right now no question. That one dragon wouldn't do shite.



The two kids, Laena and Laenor, either have dragons now or get them later. At some point, they each have one though.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Again... He has one maybe through his wife. She isn't mounting up and riding that thing into battle. The vast majority of the Targ family would side with the king right now no question. That one dragon wouldn't do shite.


Okay guy, you have it all figured out.
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
I don't really understand why Rhaenyra was pissed at her dad when he announced his new wife. She had to know that they had been seeing each other and she already knew he was being pressured to take a new wife.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:18 pm to
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I don't really understand why Rhaenyra was pissed at her dad when he announced his new wife.


She was pissed at who it was. Literally 5 seconds earlier she was cool with the marriage in concept. But she felt betrayed by Alicent who stated on the show that she didn't tell Rhaenyra that she had been spending time with the King and by her father for marrying her at minimum closest friend, possible romantic interest, and the daughter of a scheming SOB.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:18 pm to
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doesn’t mean he didn’t have to take a second to say she was in trouble but the baby could be saved.


Did you want him to tell all the people to clear the room so that he could chat with wife and tell her she was as good as dead already but before she goes she will be cut wide open so that she can feel even more pain and agony?

She was going to die no matter what and what she was going to undergo was torturous. Best to go ahead and be done with it instead of delaying and letting the opportunity to save the HEIR TO THE THRONE slip away.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:26 pm to
Six months passed from the end of the last episode and this one. Her dad and her best friend have been spending time together for six months and she didn't have a clue?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:27 pm to
When it’s Daemon, The Princess, and Corlys are on the same side vs The King then there’s your war that’s not so easily won by either side.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:36 pm to
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she didn't have a clue?


Apparently, she didn't. They made it a point to illustrate that Alicent didn't tell her. And she was fine with her dad getting re-married when they met in private and was also fine with the concept in the council meeting until the bride was revealed...then she was shocked and ran out.

If she had known they were hanging out, don't you think she would have had an inkling in her mind when the King brought up marriage that her dad might want to marry Alicent - that being Alicent's whole motivation for hanging out and all?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:42 pm to
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Six months passed from the end of the last episode and this one. Her dad and her best friend have been spending time together for six months and she didn't have a clue?


It sounds like she had mostly been going to him at night and given the Princess is just that, she probably had no reason to suspect they were meeting secretly. She's not a Littlefinger with his "little birds" or anything like that.

I don't think it's unreasonable at face value to think they'd interact in general, so any daytime visit probably wasn't thought much of at this point. And given the size of the castle could be managed discretly.
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