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re: House of the Dragon : Season 2 - Episode 1 (Spoilers Welcome)
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:38 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:38 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Forbes had an article on this because so many people had the same question.
The TL;DR version is that she would be considered a kinslayer (a big deal at the time that could ostracize you), that she's not that cold blooded, and that she was concerned about innocents who would also die.
I think it's also worth noting that it was in a space where innocent non-Targaryens could've died and that had she burned them all the people of Kings Landing could just as easily turn on Team Black with the right narrative.
Forbes article on why she didn't kill them all
The TL;DR version is that she would be considered a kinslayer (a big deal at the time that could ostracize you), that she's not that cold blooded, and that she was concerned about innocents who would also die.
I think it's also worth noting that it was in a space where innocent non-Targaryens could've died and that had she burned them all the people of Kings Landing could just as easily turn on Team Black with the right narrative.
Forbes article on why she didn't kill them all
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:49 pm to skullhawk
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A producer said she was upset that so many fans liked Daemon. I could definitely see this girl boss making sure Daemon is taken down a peg or two.
When will this shite be over? Legitimately. I’m so freaking sick of these “people”
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:53 pm to BluegrassBelle
I will read the article when I get a chance but that logic doesn't hold up to her actions. If she was worried about casualties then why bust through the floor where she clearly injured and killed people? Just go out the dragon pit door. and fly away. The answer is that busting through the floor was way more dramatic but its not logical.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:57 pm to BluegrassBelle
Didn't she explain that it wasn't her war to start or something like that when Rhaenyra asked her about it? I may be remembering wrong. It's been a while.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:57 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Eh, you have to look at it from actual monarchy perspectives. You always want an heir and a spare. Aemma died trying to give him the spare.
The other thing to take into consideration is that Viserys did not want his brother, Daemon, to be his heir. And in a realm where Rhaenyra could've just as easily died in childbirth as her mother did, it made sense for Viserys to have other heirs behind her with Alicent.
Not only that but let's be realistic. Viserys is a dude, even though he's an older man, he's still a dude. And if an attractive young woman, not saying it's right, was practically throwing herself at you then it's going to be extremely hard to say no to that. And in this world they likely didn't view a child like Alicent as a child as soon as she "had her flower" I mean you had Margaery, a woman that was probably a decade or older than Tommen, marry a child and have sex with him
For a lonely, weak man like Viserys who JUST lost his wife, it was going to be very difficult for him NOT to want to be with Alicent, especially with that fricking viper Otto in his ear.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:02 pm to Draco Malfoy
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When will this shite be over? Legitimately. I’m so freaking sick of these “people”
It's not unreasonable to think eventually Daemon's desire to hold the throne will eventually get the best of him. He's always been on that edge of doing something destructive. I don't think that would be "girl bossing" him.
If they follow his natural storyline, shite definitely gets complicated with him and Rhaenyra.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:04 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I’ve also read that it was Allicent stepping in front of Aegon and “two mothers connecting”
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:05 pm to BluegrassBelle
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It's not unreasonable to think eventually Daemon's desire to hold the throne will eventually get the best of him. He's always been on that edge of doing something destructive. I don't think that would be "girl bossing" him. If they follow his natural storyline, shite definitely gets complicated with him and Rhaenyra.
I took it more of her intentionally making him look weak to spite all the white males
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:05 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:couldn’t possibly agree with you more. It was nonsensical at best and retarded at worst. She could have and probably did kill dozens just crashing inside…just dumb. Seriously, eliminate that scene and nothing changes.
having the dramatic scene where she confronts the Hightowers but does nothing was some season 7 & 8 GoT shite.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:08 pm to cgrand
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just dumb. Seriously, eliminate that scene and nothing changes.
Then we wouldn't be talking about it...
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:13 pm to JDPndahizzy
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Didn't she explain that it wasn't her war to start or something like that when Rhaenyra asked her about it?
Dumb explanation. They started the war when they held her prisoner.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:15 pm to Draco Malfoy
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I took it more of her intentionally making him look weak to spite all the white males
He’s a flawed guy inherently as a second born to a King who wants to be King. When you see his whole story I can see where someone might be like “frick that guy”.
But if they didn’t want him to be charismatic they shouldn’t have hired Matt Smith. This is like a medieval Prince Phillip for him. He oozes charisma despite not being the greatest guy.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:17 pm to JDPndahizzy
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Then we wouldn't be talking about it...
Yeah but we are talkking about it for the wrong reasons. By your logic making Seaons 7 and 8 of GoT horrible was a great move because people still talk about it.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But if they didn’t want him to be charismatic they shouldn’t have hired Matt Smith. This is like a medieval Prince Phillip for him. He oozes charisma despite not being the greatest guy.
I view him similar to Jamie Lannister. Both are flawed characters that show their worst sides first but when you get to know the character as a whole, you find their redeeming qualities.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:24 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I view him similar to Jamie Lannister. Both are flawed characters that show their worst sides first but when you get to know the character as a whole, you find their redeeming qualities.
Agree.
And knowing where his story goes I can kind of understand a producer being annoyed with the love for him because things will come to pass that I think they need the audience to have a little ick for him to understand Rhaenyra’s reaction.
But that’s assuming they even follow that storyline. The dragon seed stuff is going to be difficult to condense IMO.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:28 pm to teke184
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Same with Aemond and the death of Jace. The death was confirmed but the circumstances were murky, such as whether Jace crashed avoiding Aemond or if Aemond had his dragon kill Jace internally. Turned out that dragons don’t necessarily listen to their riders and killed Jace and his dragon because it decided to.
You’re talking about Lucerys.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
I have not read the books so I have no idea where the show is going but I do think that they have shown that Daemon is ruthless and could easily portray him in a negative light if/when its called for despite people liking him thus far.
People also like Aemond and he has been nothing but a psychopath.
People also like Aemond and he has been nothing but a psychopath.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:51 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Dumb explanation. They started the war when they held her prisoner.
She would be killing the "King" though. That's kinda a big step to take on your own.
Also, she didn't technically choose a side yet. She wouldn't even kneel to Rhaenyra at first. She waited for Corlys to come back.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:05 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:I see this a lot and I don't get it. I think of Little Finger as a "viper". His actions intentionally led to death and chaos. I think Otto just did what many people who might've had they had the same opportunity. He offered up his daughter hoping the king would choose her and thus strengthen his own house. Corlys did the same thing and nobody is giving him shite for it.
that fricking viper Otto in his ear.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:12 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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She would be killing the "King" though. That's kinda a big step to take on your own.
This goes back to why break through the floor at all then? If you have no intention of killing anyone (she did kill people) then why not go out the regular door and fly away?
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Also, she didn't technically choose a side yet.
She chose team Black when she backed Luke's claim to being their heir of driftmark and agreed to marry her granddaughters to Rhaenyra's sons. Its why they imprisoned her.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 2:13 pm
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