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Honest question about race source material and movies/tv shows

Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:30 am
If you didn't read the books or see previous movies, how much would it matter to you, could you enjoy it for what it is? I think I could, case in point is The last of Us they go WAY off the source material but it's a good tv show.
Posted by cinemaguy23
Member since Apr 2025
399 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:39 am to
The games are awful and the show is even worse. Bad example.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8459 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:07 am to
The first game was awesome
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10923 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:07 am to
Case by case basis.

I've given a couple examples before.

Red in Shawshank was a pasty white Irish dude with red hair. Morgan Freeman nailed that part, so now he IS Red.

Heimdal in Norse Mythology is actually called "the whitest of gods", but in the Marvel movies, Idris Elba plays the part so well that his appearance is not relevant.

Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:09 am to
Is it a good show? Haven’t the season 2 ratings plummeted? We only watched the first episode.


But to answer your question, I think a viewer can enjoy watching a show without an investment in the source material, including the perception of what a character is supposed to look like.

For example, I am not a Tolkeinite, therefore, black elves and hobbits don’t bother me. However, the show was shite, and that’s why I only made it about five episodes.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:10 am to
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The games are awful

Only on tigerdroppings

Quick way to announce you have zero credibility though at least.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42361 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:12 am to
Of course. If you were not able to enjoy a movie or show that doesn't have race swaps you would virtually not be able to enjoy any show or movie made for the rest of time.

The Last of us though is a terrible example. The show sucks. But it's not even because they veer off from source, the writers just legitimately suck at writing a show.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65811 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:12 am to
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Heimdal in Norse Mythology is actually called "the whitest of gods", but in the Marvel movies, Idris Elba plays the part so well that his appearance is not relevant.


I hate this one because they wasted Idris Elba on a bit part. Even with expanding Heimdall's role as far as they could, they still wasted Idris Elba.

This is one of those times when it was dumb to cast a black dude as a white "god," but also they wasted an amazing actor on a garbage part to do it.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:27 am to
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I hate this one because they wasted Idris Elba on a bit part. Even with expanding Heimdall's role as far as they could, they still wasted Idris Elba.

This is one of those times when it was dumb to cast a black dude as a white "god," but also they wasted an amazing actor on a garbage part to do it.


Should have made him the next Captain America right? Then people wouldn't have cared since it would have been an amazing actor playing Cap.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65811 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:36 am to
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Should have made him the next Captain America right? Then people wouldn't have cared since it would have been an amazing actor playing Cap.


I have no idea what you mean. There is no problem with the Falcon becoming Captain America and Anthony Mackie is doing a decent job in that role with the absolutely subpar writing and plots he's gotten.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 10:38 am
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7270 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:40 am to
It only bothers me when it doesn't make sense from a cultural or anthropological perspective, so you know it was done for DEI. A black Norse god makes about as much sense as a white Wakandan.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:45 am to
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Only on tigerdroppings

Quick way to announce you have zero credibility though at least.


Common knowledge on the internet is that everyone loved the first game. Second game went too woke. That's not Tigerdropping's talk. That's internet talk.

First game, 37 million copies sold vs sequel selling only 10 million copies. Did Tigerdroppings do that all by it's little self?

Let's talk about your credibility....
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 10:48 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47124 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:48 am to
Never played it or saw the series.

Don’t care.
“ race source material “?

Question is kinda hard to understand too, so…

Who was swapped?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:56 am to
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Common knowledge on the internet is that everyone loved the first game. Second game went too woke. That's not Tigerdropping's talk. That's internet talk.


Both games were rated similarly great. 10 million copies sold for TLOU2 seems like a really good number as well. TLOU1 only sold 8 million on its initial PS3 release.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 10:59 am
Posted by cinemaguy23
Member since Apr 2025
399 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:12 am to
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Who was swapped?


They put a gremlin as Ellie instead of a normal looking teenager
Posted by cinemaguy23
Member since Apr 2025
399 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:14 am to
Those raters are paid shills who get money from Sony and other developers to give high scores.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:17 am to
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Those raters are paid shills who get money from Sony and other developers to give high scores.

Haha copium. What about the steam users?
Posted by cinemaguy23
Member since Apr 2025
399 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:19 am to
15k is a very low number for a AAA title. Not enough sample size
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5966 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:21 am to
I don't care about a black Snape in the new Harry Potter show. I truly don't.

It was London in the 1990s.
Posted by cinemaguy23
Member since Apr 2025
399 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:23 am to
Yep same with the shitty Percy Jackson show they are doing right now. Most of the characters are race swapped
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