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re: Heretic (A24)
Posted on 12/14/24 at 10:43 am to Lieutenant Dan
Posted on 12/14/24 at 10:43 am to Lieutenant Dan
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Saying Hugh Grant delivered some great performance, is insulting.
Insulting to who? His performance was great. It would have been very easy for Grant to misstep slightly and deliver a ham-fisted performance. And the "religious monologues" were the best thing about the movie. It's nice when a writer has done a little homework and doesn't just rely on stock cliches.
That said, the ending definitely doesn't stand up to closer scrutiny. I have mixed feelings about that though. I think the writers may have made an error in what it thought the audience wanted. Or maybe they just wrote themselves into a corner they couldn't get out. (As you mentioned, it does feel a bit tacked on as an afterthought.) The fact it doesn't quite work, though, is a testament to the effective work done in the first two acts. Watching the third act is a good reminder of how the rest of the movie would've felt had the writers played by the old rulebook from the start.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 11:18 am
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 11:04 pm to shutterspeed
Should’ve ended when ole girl goes down that ladder…Grant looking down at her, slams hatch shut. Roll credits
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:21 pm to Lieutenant Dan
Movie was good but I wish the reveal would have had some supernaturalness to it.
It’s worth it tho just to see Grant devour scenes.
It’s worth it tho just to see Grant devour scenes.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:16 pm to CBandits82
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Movie was good but I wish the reveal would have had some supernaturalness to it.
It seems pretty supernatural to me that 2 women can’t whoop the crap out of some goofy white old man in any movie these days.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:17 pm to CBandits82
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Movie was good but I wish the reveal would have had some supernaturalness to it.
It seems pretty supernatural to me that 2 women can’t whoop the crap out of some goofy white old man in any movie these days.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 12:17 pm to shutterspeed
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That said, the ending definitely doesn't stand up to closer scrutiny
SPOILER
I mean it's a fictional movie so there has to be some suspension of disbelief, but if we're going the realism route, there should've been a half-dozen or so ways that each of those prior captive girls' trails ended cold at this house, and no one had (presumably) ever bothered to investigate it any further up until this point? Everyone just shows up to inquire briefly, continues on with their mission, and leaves completely satisfied like Eric Forman?
Posted on 2/11/25 at 2:49 pm to AlterDWI
quote:Motherfricking this right here
I feel like people overrate A24 movies because they are A24 movies.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 2:52 pm to TigerFanatic99
I watched this over the weekend.
I thought it was good.
Their movies can be hit or miss, this one's a hit.
I thought it was good.
Their movies can be hit or miss, this one's a hit.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 2:57 pm to Lieutenant Dan
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With that said, most of the millennials who have been subjected to all of these horrible movies over the past 10 years or so will love it.
Am I missing something? Are millennials the only people that existed to watch movies the past 10 years?
Posted on 2/11/25 at 2:58 pm to paperwasp
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I mean it's a fictional movie so there has to be some suspension of disbelief,
Thats how i feel about the bible.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:13 pm to dgnx6
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Thats how i feel about the bible
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:48 am to Lieutenant Dan
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Saying Hugh Grant delivered some great performance, is insulting.
You have to try hard to be this wrong.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:57 am to shutterspeed
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That said, the ending definitely doesn't stand up to closer scrutiny
Yeah this is the standard for modern horror, especially "elevated" horror.
Solid concept and 1st act, engaging 2nd act, shits on self in the final act.
Hugh Grant FEASTED though. I went to look at the Oscar noms and was insulted he wasn't even nominated. It's worth watching to [fill in metaphor] for that first 75 minutes.
I do have a bad taste in my mouth for most movies that have the villain orchestrate this perfect plan where everything has to go perfectly. It just doesn't hold up and you can poke 100 holes.
This movie did also rip off Speak No Evil (the good one, not the shitty American version) and Martyrs (although this was a red herring of sorts) a bit. Those are much better movies and people should watch them instead.
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And the "religious monologues" were the best thing about the movie. It's nice when a writer has done a little homework and doesn't just rely on stock cliches.
I think this movie does say a lot about people who engage in religious debates much more than religion itself.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Saying Hugh Grant delivered some great performance, is insulting.
You have to try hard to be this wrong.
No surprise you jacked off to his mediocre performance in this stinker.
It's pretty simple, it takes a complete movie with great acting to move the needle. I refuse the premise that Grant delivered some grandiose performance in a movie that went to shite as most A24s do. If you want to tout a HG performance in a movie that delivered, The Gentlemen hits that mark more than this one, which isn't saying a lot.
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Hugh Grant FEASTED though. I went to look at the Oscar noms and was insulted he wasn't even nominated.
Talk about trying hard. This is dumb. If you want an example of an A24 Horror movie with fantastic acting, I point you to Toni Collette's Oscar snub for Hereditary.
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This movie did also rip off Speak No Evil (the good one, not the shitty American version) and Martyrs (although this was a red herring of sorts) a bit. Those are much better movies and people should watch them instead.
Neither of these 2 classics should be in the same discussion as Heretic. It's not even in the same ballpark, like, at all. It's good to see that you have been exposed to at least 2 great movies though, I suppose.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:35 pm to Lieutenant Dan
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If you want to tout a HG performance in a movie that delivered, The Gentlemen hits that mark more than this one, which isn't saying a lot.
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If you want an example of an A24 Horror movie with fantastic acting, I point you to Toni Collette's Oscar snub for Hereditary.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Hugh Grant’s best career performance is Paddington 2. Heretic didn’t quite reach that level but I thought HG was still excellent. The movie overall was another Longlegs to me. Worth watching for the lead actor that carries the movie through a terrible third act.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:22 pm to dgnx6
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Their movies can be hit or miss, this one's a hit.
Just finished it and completely agree. Thought this one was great.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:24 pm to indytiger
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now all the TD reviews are saying it stunk.
The vast majority of the posters on the Movie/TV Board have awful taste in horror movies, so not surprising.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Hugh Grant FEASTED though. I went to look at the Oscar noms and was insulted he wasn't even nominated. It's worth watching to [fill in metaphor] for that first 75 minutes.
+1 he was absolutely fantastic
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:21 am to RLDSC FAN
Great film. Hugh Grant was fantastic.
Not sure about you people that hated it. It's not that edgy to be contrarian. You're the kind of people that go to a comedy show and get offended. Ya should have stayed home, Karen.
No film is perfect. Holes can always be poked. I watch something to be entertained and this one absolutely nailed it.
Not sure about you people that hated it. It's not that edgy to be contrarian. You're the kind of people that go to a comedy show and get offended. Ya should have stayed home, Karen.
No film is perfect. Holes can always be poked. I watch something to be entertained and this one absolutely nailed it.
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